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[snailstick]

It'd be nice if we could toss excess stone in the chasm. After a few years, I easily have tens of thousands of rocks cluttering up my fortress and causing the game to bog down terribly when i enable rock hauling.

[Kylaer]

You can, you just need the Bookkeeper (with his Stocks screen) in order to do it, and it seems pretty tedious. I typically set a bunch of catapults to throw constantly, that will eat up a little of the stone, and I try to churn the rest into stone crafts to sell/give away to the human caravan.

[John Hopoate]

I doubt that anyone has ever stockpiled 20,000 pieces of stone (that's about the most I've ever mined), let alone made them into things or spent an entire day designating them to be chasmed.

[snailstick]

how do you cause catapults to throw constantly without a target? and i've pissed off both the human and elven caravans so i could murder their armies with my steam defense for fun  

[Maximus]

"Fire at will".

[segmose]

"fire at will" is a bit strange option, I would consider

- "fire at targets of opportunity"
- "training"
- "fire at designated target"

to be more appropriate.

[snailstick]

I've set them to fire at will but my dwarves never touch them (they have the seige operating job enabled). but a 'chasm stone' order through the (o)rders menu would be much nicer..

[Pacho]

quote:Originally posted by snailstick:
<STRONG>I've set them to fire at will but my dwarves never touch them (they have the seige operating job enabled). but a 'chasm stone' order through the (o)rders menu would be much nicer..</STRONG>

siege operating is not a high priority job, you have to disable other jobs (specially hauling) if you want your dwarves to train in siege operating.  It takes about a year or so to get a new dwarf to legendary if the stone supply is close to the catapult.

[qalnor]

I have two opinions on this subject, I haven't decided which one I truly favor:

1. Make stone blocks with your masons and stone crafts with your craftsmen, both of these go in bins.

2. Just ignore the stone, only bother to set up stone stockpiles in the following circumstances:

A. Immediately after mining out an area you need cleaned for farming/building placement/etc

B. Small stone stockpiles near buildings which use stone as a resource.

2 is a recent observation, and I've found it to be relatively useful because I really only bother to set one or two dwarves to haul stone now, and other things get done.

Now, if you absolutely positively want a clean floor, stone crafts and stone blocks are the way to go.

[Kjoery]

3 catapults have consumed thousands of stone in the last game I've played (3-4 years?)

[Maximus]

I've taken to not creating stockpiles for nearly anything -- food, obviously, and a little ore and limestone stockpile near the smelters.  Otherwise I build shops near the resources, and use up their output quickly or just relocate them to keep them from getting cluttered.

I couldn't clear the ratmen corpses from my chasm bridge fast enough to avoid miasma, so I just turned off refuse hauling, and have a nearby bonecarver furiously at work on whatever's left.  Hauling is for pansies.    

[qalnor]

I typically create stockpiles for finished goods as well, because it makes moving crap to the trade depot much less annoying.

[Aquillion]

A legendary mason can deal with stone pretty quickly.  Have him build lots of things with it, but mainly turn it into blocks...  blocks can be stacked in large numbers in bins and used for building projects later.

Other uses for it include making crafts, mechanisms, and rockfall traps.  There is always something to do with new mechanisms, in particular.

[axus]

Right, having someone do things for skill with the stone is better than hauling it around.  Stone blocks, mechanisms, and crafts are always useful eventually.  Stone blocks are better for building because the builder won't wander around for random stones, you know where they come from.

I'll usually build a new mason shop and block stockpile near where I have an elaborate aqueduct setup planned.

[Angela Christine]

Chasming stone isn't a great idea.  It takes just as long to haul it to the chasm as it would to haul it to stockpiles, so you don't save worker time.  I tried it once, using the stocks menu to select a bunch of stone to be tossed, and my productive fortress nearly ground to a halt.