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[Paul]

In seemingly every world I generate where the goblins are near humans, they all die off early - replaced by the numerous humans that they've snatched. All the dark fortresses become Dark Human Fortresses. Then in most cases the humans outside war with the humans inside, eventually conquering the sites.

In one case the Dark Human Fortresses managed to survive world gen, but all of the actual goblins died off way back before year 100 (very, very few goblins ever had children, but they snatched lots of babies from the humans). The snatched humans simply carried on the goblin way of life for almost a thousand years since they all died off.

The goblins live on if they are separated from the humans, but contact always seems to result in their doom.

Anyone else notice this?

[DarkMagnus]

Toady has mentioned humans are becoming more and more xenophobic. It's not surprising, then, that their proximity to an evil civ would result in its destruction. That's what I'm thinking, anyway.

[Paul]

It's not just their destruction though... The goblins just seem to kidnap a bunch of humans then die off themselves, with the humans taking over for the goblins - but still considering themselves an evil civ and still fighting with the humans.

[dbfuru]

I have found dark forts inhabited by humans and forts with goblins.

The goblin fort had a demon inside who breathed some sort of boiling gas, too.