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Zarhon

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Does high bolt quality make training impossible?
« on: March 28, 2010, 01:33:30 pm »

I have a bunch of marksdwarves and I trained them quite a bit with archery targets, but they seem to have slowed down on their training drastically after I obtained a crapload of bones for bolts, via a goblin siege. I made sure they all had proper weapons, werent carrying something useless in their hands, they were off-duty, with plenty of booze and food nearby. Despite this, my dwarves seem to hardly ever train their crossbow skill. I had about 30 (!) bins full of nothing but bolts directly next to their training area. Later on, I discovered that whenever one of my non-legendary bone carvers made bolts and stashed them into the stockpiles, the trainees would go and use them up for training instantly. On the other hand they seem to ignore the 30ish bins filled with high-quality bone / bought iron & steel bolts. Does the superior-quality bone bolts make them "unuseable" for training? Is there a way to force them to get off their asses and start training properly?

Extra note: The archery range is built so that bolts which miss the targets fall into a stockpile, so they can be re-used.
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Re: Does high bolt quality make training impossible?
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2010, 01:37:19 pm »

Only bone and I think wood bolts are used for target practice. The others are considered too valuable.

Edit: oh I only saw "bought iron & steel bolts" when I skimmed through your post. I'm not sure about the bone bolts, maybe make sure they are not forbidden?
« Last Edit: March 28, 2010, 01:40:34 pm by Cibrong »
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Re: Does high bolt quality make training impossible?
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2010, 02:11:06 pm »

I've seen them shoot masterpiece ammo in training. Caused quite a problem when I gave up on ammo reuse and chasm'd the lot.
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Re: Does high bolt quality make training impossible?
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2010, 02:19:18 pm »

I just tested this and my dwarfs refuse to train with masterful quality ammo. Although they don't mind using the equally valuable but lesser quality Unicorn bolts.
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Re: Does high bolt quality make training impossible?
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2010, 04:46:26 pm »

I used to have a pit to collect marksdwarf training bolts that missed their target (it caused too many hauling jobs from the single bolt stacks to coninute trying to skimp on bolt construction in this way... plus there's always more bones.) 

I can assure you that masterpiece goblin and unicorn bone bolts are down there.

In fact, the reclaiming bone bolts stockpile might just be your problem: instead of training with a stack of 30 goblin bone bolts at a time, fired off rapid-fire, your dwarves have to march down and pick up the missed shots one at a time, stroll back up, and fire again... and it probably takes a new occurance of "hey, let's go practice marksdwarfship instead of doing something else" popping in their heads before they do it.
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