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Organum

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It burns!
« on: March 24, 2010, 01:47:37 am »
Hi there, me again. This time I'm trying to adventure as a horrific cave fiend that is always on fire. I copied [FIXED_TEMP:25000] and all its [NO-BLABLAWHOCAAARES] tokens from those hilarious fire jugglers and added that to my beloved monstrosity to prevent its own fire from devouring itself..

Alas!



We all burned to death quite quickly. An upset!

And so I come here, to you genius peoples, with this question. Is there any token or series of tokens that enables you to not-die from burnination? If not, how is it that those ha-ha-fire tossers don't arrive to the party black and charred?

EDIT: Until I find a solution, I shall continue fiddling with it. Either I'll solve it or discover its futility, or neither and be flabergasted with your answers.
« Last Edit: March 24, 2010, 01:51:44 am by Organum »
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Re: It burns!
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2010, 02:00:44 am »
Could you post the exact code for the creature for us? It would make things easier.
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Re: It burns!
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2010, 06:21:08 am »
Do they use clothing? If they are burning hot, they might ignite their clothing and incinerate themselves that way.
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Re: It burns!
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2010, 06:30:28 am »
IGNITE_POINT, MELTING_POINT, HEATDAM_POINT, HOMEOTHERM. These four will have an effect on the creature burninating itself to death. Clothing is a non-issue.
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Re: It burns!
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2010, 06:40:30 am »
The creature's info:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
I think it's a little overpowered, but eh.

Also I'm pretty sure the problem is fixed. It's burns everything around it now without burning up itself or giving me the "You are on fire!" message.
I don't have HOMEOTHERM or MELTING POINT. I was modeling its fire usage on flaming jokers.

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Re: It burns!
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2010, 06:56:26 am »
Remove STANDARD_FLESH then. Or don't. Either way, add a high MELTING_POINT, and a HOMEOTHERM equal to your FIXED_TEMP, for good measure.
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Re: It burns!
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2010, 03:10:47 pm »
I'll add those. Thanks, guy.

EDIT: On further inspection, I've discovered that anything they hold is incinerated. So much for weapon users. That's not really important, I just thought it was neat.
« Last Edit: March 24, 2010, 03:38:03 pm by Organum »
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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2010, 05:26:28 pm »
Yeah. You could melt HFS weapons with that temperature. I'd suggest that you try and get a job smelting bauxite into Aluminium, but I can't imagine what they'd pay you with. Do artifacts melt? If not, you could try raiding an old fort for a Pig Iron Blowpipe, or a Rope Reed Maul or the sort of stupid weapons my dwarves seem to love making.
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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2010, 05:39:27 pm »
You can create special metals for them to use in equipment, as 25000 temperature is far higher than the boiling point of iron so simply creating super-high melting point metals would work.

For general clothing create some creatures they will use for leather and add the [LEATHER_HEATDAM_POINT:x], [LEATHER_IGNITE_POINT:x][BONE_HEATDAM_POINT:x] tags and make x greater than 25000. The bone tag is more useful for fortress mode, as civilisations barely use bones for anything on their own.
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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2010, 06:09:49 pm »
Hmm, alright. Is it possible the super high boiling point might make it freeze? I've heard of that happening.

I'm playing adventure mode with one right now and so far I've killed 130 elves while unarmed. The only bit I'm missing is an eye. I started off with no skills and have achieved great wrestling, "strong", and "extremely agile".
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Re: It burns!
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2010, 07:52:12 pm »
Quote from: Organum on March 24, 2010, 06:09:49 pm
Hmm, alright. Is it possible the super high boiling point might make it freeze? I've heard of that happening.
That only happens when you try the reverse, actually.  Super low boiling point results in a cloud of gas at the temperature of the material's boiling point.
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Re: It burns!
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2010, 07:58:50 pm »
If you set the ignition temperature below the HEATDAM point, will you create an ever-burning item/creature?  Has anyone tested this?
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« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2010, 08:50:24 pm »
Quote from: Kagus on March 24, 2010, 07:58:50 pm
If you set the ignition temperature below the HEATDAM point, will you create an ever-burning item/creature?  Has anyone tested this?

I think someone made a little mod that turned your cats into thermal nuclear explosions... look it up on the wiki... Because I'm not 100% on this one...

But I was told it was a source of Fun
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Re: It burns!
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2010, 08:55:24 pm »
Yeah, I was actually there for that.  It also has nothing to do with what I just mentioned.

EDIT:  Actually, reading the wiki article does briefly mentions flaming cats, and then expresses the tags I was thinking about.  However, it's not much to go on, and doesn't seem to be a verified comment.  Also, I can't remember it being brought up in the original thread.
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