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[Untelligent]

woohoo





They still have towns and stuff too.


Proof of concept is established, now to get the damn things to show up outside.

[Biag]

And, ladies and gentlemen, after days of strenuous tests and 'round-the-clock work, we have managed to create a caveman.

[silhouette]

And, ladies and gentlemen, after days of strenuous tests and 'round-the-clock work, we have managed to create a caveman.

ahem...
i believe that is a cave woman...
unless its dressed in drag then i can understand how you made that mistake...

[SethCreiyd]

And, ladies and gentlemen, after days of strenuous tests and 'round-the-clock work, we have managed to create a caveman.

You made me giggle.

perhaps there's something special about caves.

I was pondering that too, SUBTERRANEAN_CHASM biomes are homes to all of the "___man" type creatures.  I'm going to try and repeat your approach with some other specific biomes.  Maybe they didn't appear right away in the temperate zones because there are just so many other temperate based creatures competing for spawns.

[SethCreiyd]

Here are elves in a forest.  Took out [INTELLIGENT], added:

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[BIOME:ANY_FOREST]
[LARGE_ROAMING]
[POPULATION_NUMBER:2:5]
[CLUSTER_NUMBER:1:5]
[FREQUENCY:100]
[CAN_SPEAK][CAN_LEARN]


They spawned right away, five of them due north of the wagon.  They still made settlements like Untelligent's humans.

I put [INTELLIGENT] back, and unsurprisingly, there were no wild elves.

So, they will spawn as long as their 'intellect' is suitably tweaked.  Adjusting frequency adjusts their commonness, and adjusting the population number can lead to lots of them passing through year round.

So what the heck else does CAN_CIV do?  I haven't yet recieved a caravan or siege from any race without it, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything.  More testing to do...   

_{Edit:  removed genpower from code post}

[soul4hdwn]

not completely related on topic but you can still have both the just tested "wild" tags and the intelligent/can_civ  tags as long as biomes are matching/working at embark fortresses.

tho don't take this completely guaranteed because the only creature i have with both sticks to colder areas...which i don't go into

[Ieb]

Hurm. This thread is breaking SCIENCE as we know it.
I love your work, keep at it.

Also, something else that came to mind.
Say you embark with dwarves, on a mountain, where the wild dwarves roam.

Can you then capture, tame and add them to your civilization? Isn't this sort of like that mod where you could purchase slaves to work in your fort? Something about making the civ creature a common domestic pet.

I would assume that the game would still treat the wild dwarves as animals, so you wouldn't be able to give them jobs, but hey, a man can dream.

EDIT: Hurp durp, sudden flashback just told me that you can't tame anything with the CAN_SPEAK or CAN_LEARN tags. Since butchering is included, how about wild dwarf bones then? Are they fair game to your guys, or are they treated the same as any dwarven remains, be it merchant guards, merchants or that goblin kidnapped dwarf guard.

[Vester]

Well, they seem to be absent names, but that's nothing their killing a few goblins can't fix.