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Kavalion

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Re: An Elven King I Can Deal With, But I Draw The Line At...
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2009, 05:31:18 pm »

He must be a legendary liar!  He's got the whole dwarf civilization hoodwinked.
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Re: An Elven King I Can Deal With, But I Draw The Line At...
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2009, 05:50:23 pm »

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Regen the world, but keep it going.
Find out when his death would occur.
Regen to the year before his death, and embark. The world stands still after worldgen is over.

Get king and post screenshots!

Unfortunately, I can't do that. When I regen the world, all names are changed. So it is impossible to find out who is the "Mato The Gobbo King".
Huh?  It shouldn't work that way.  If you use the same parameters and same seeds (generation, name, & history seeds), you should get the exact same results every time.
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"Oh look there is a dragon my clothes might burn let me take them off and only wear steel plate."
And this is how tinned food was invented.
Alternately: The Brick Testament. It's a really fun look at what the bible would look like if interpreted literally. With Legos.
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Re: An Elven King I Can Deal With, But I Draw The Line At...
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2009, 06:16:34 pm »

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Regen the world, but keep it going.
Find out when his death would occur.
Regen to the year before his death, and embark. The world stands still after worldgen is over.

Get king and post screenshots!

Unfortunately, I can't do that. When I regen the world, all names are changed. So it is impossible to find out who is the "Mato The Gobbo King".
Huh?  It shouldn't work that way.  If you use the same parameters and same seeds (generation, name, & history seeds), you should get the exact same results every time.

Hm, I must be doing it wrong. I've gotten the same world, same name for it, same layout. Apparently the same history, but when I did a string search for the name it didn't come up.

Edit: Found what I was doing wrong, when I copied it over from the exported folder, one of the Seeds got changed (Probably an inadvertant button press.).

Edit 2: I regenned the world. Up to year 10000. And sadly, Mato doesn't die, so I am pursuing alternatives, if I kill him in adventure/fortress mode, then abandon/retire/starve, and then I go in to fortress mode, will they have found a replacement?
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Re: An Elven King I Can Deal With, But I Draw The Line At...
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2009, 06:33:24 pm »

Hold on a sec, Daniel Craig.  Maybe he's gotten more awesome in those extra couple thousand years?  We must know  first!  ;D
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"Oh look there is a dragon my clothes might burn let me take them off and only wear steel plate."
And this is how tinned food was invented.
Alternately: The Brick Testament. It's a really fun look at what the bible would look like if interpreted literally. With Legos.
Just so I remember

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Re: An Elven King I Can Deal With, But I Draw The Line At...
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2009, 06:52:11 pm »

He must be a legendary liar!  He's got the whole dwarf civilization hoodwinked.
Note his surname, "Sicknesslie". He must've started out as a Dabbling Liar by getting days off work.
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Re: An Elven King I Can Deal With, But I Draw The Line At...
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2009, 08:03:11 pm »

Cacame was awesome because he was an Elf, the mortal enemy of a dwarf, that not only adopted the dwarven mentality but became the embodiment of it.  He led his nation to war against their hated foe, avenged his wife's death with the destruction of an entire civilization (how's THAT for a tantrum?), and though incapable of growing a true beard, his soul had a beard that would have put most dwarves to shame.

Though it's unusual Wraith became a dwarven leader, Goblins don't really inspire the same loathing as elves, being primarily regarded as the third iron ore and a little more than a minor irritant to skilled leaders.  Although the death rate among goblins makes his 2000+ year lifespan somewhat impressive, one can't help but be reminded by the fact that this was likely due to the fact that he just didn't do much.

Which, I suppose, makes him Dwarven, so long as you're thinking about the nobles.
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Re: An Elven King I Can Deal With, But I Draw The Line At...
« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2009, 08:14:10 pm »

Cacame was awesome because he was an Elf, the mortal enemy of a dwarf, that not only adopted the dwarven mentality but became the embodiment of it.  He led his nation to war against their hated foe, avenged his wife's death with the destruction of an entire civilization (how's THAT for a tantrum?), and though incapable of growing a true beard, his soul had a beard that would have put most dwarves to shame.

Though it's unusual Wraith became a dwarven leader, Goblins don't really inspire the same loathing as elves, being primarily regarded as the third iron ore and a little more than a minor irritant to skilled leaders.  Although the death rate among goblins makes his 2000+ year lifespan somewhat impressive, one can't help but be reminded by the fact that this was likely due to the fact that he just didn't do much.

Which, I suppose, makes him Dwarven, so long as you're thinking about the nobles.

I can't resist:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prDCDmchtTg&feature=related

Note mildly violent content.  ;D
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Re: An Elven King I Can Deal With, But I Draw The Line At...
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2009, 08:24:43 pm »

A thought. If you provoke war with dwarves (as another race if necessary) could you harvest steel bars the same way we harvest goblinite?
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Re: An Elven King I Can Deal With, But I Draw The Line At...
« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2009, 08:38:36 pm »

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Re: An Elven King I Can Deal With, But I Draw The Line At...
« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2009, 09:33:11 pm »

Goblinite isn't just the fourth iron ore, it's the most valuable ore in the game.  You mine it with the military, and much of its product, though otherwise useless, can be very useful for trade without any further processing beyond the initial harvest.  On top of that, some of the iron product is pre-shaped into exotic weapons the dwarves can't make.
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"Oh look there is a dragon my clothes might burn let me take them off and only wear steel plate."
And this is how tinned food was invented.
Alternately: The Brick Testament. It's a really fun look at what the bible would look like if interpreted literally. With Legos.
Just so I remember

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Re: An Elven King I Can Deal With, But I Draw The Line At...
« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2009, 10:29:48 pm »

A thought. If you provoke war with dwarves (as another race if necessary) could you harvest steel bars the same way we harvest goblinite?

Well, Dig Deeper orcs are my preferred ore of steel and crucible steel, so I'd say it's reasonable.
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Re: An Elven King I Can Deal With, But I Draw The Line At...
« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2009, 03:46:14 am »

A thought. If you provoke war with dwarves (as another race if necessary) could you harvest steel bars the same way we harvest goblinite?

Or maybe even adamantine?
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