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Newly released? I finished this game weeks ago. Ancient history by now. And yeah Aqizzar, you really didn't have to start over, you can go anywhere on the island after the last battle
I wish they'd pointed that out somewhere though.

I agree with your points in the spoilertags, except I played it on the PS3 and didn't have to deal with the PC conversion shortcomings. It is very much designed for consoles, especially the fighting.

Also (not endgame spoilers)

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This game has the first creative use of rumblepacks I've encountered so far. The PS3 gamepad has two rumblers (I guess that's the "dual" in dualshock?). And with the harmonic frequency whatever gadget, you controlled the left rumbler with the left analog stick and the right rumbler with the right stick. To blow up the forcefields you had to find the harmonic by tuning the rumblers until you found the strongest vibration. Simple stuff, but very cool. How did they solve this on the PC?

I loved the scarecrow scenes, serious mindfucks at times. Especially the one where Batman and Joker switches roles and you get shot.

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You use A&D and arrow keys.

[Asehujiko]

No, if you pirate the game, you can't jump. People worked around it, but for a while it was delicious.

Correction, if you have no access to GFWL you can't jump. Legal customers with no desire to have that piece of shit malware on their PC are screwed as well. They stealth patched it before release a few hours after the pirates detected it and then spun a bullshit tale of how it was intended as DRM.

[Aqizzar]

No, if you pirate the game, you can't jump. People worked around it, but for a while it was delicious.

Correction, if you have no access to GFWL you can't jump. Legal customers with no desire to have that piece of shit malware on their PC are screwed as well. They stealth patched it before release a few hours after the pirates detected it and then spun a bullshit tale of how it was intended as DRM.

If I recall correctly it was more along the lines of being unable to glide from gargoyles. At all. If you did Bats would fall down and die from poison gas. Not sure though.

Damn, that's hilarious.  Seriously, if I was making an anti-pirate measure, it'd be some clever fuck-you to the player.  And then, anyone who goes on the support forum to complain about it, bam - pirate identified.

As for the free-roaming after the big fight, s'cool, I want to play it over anyway.  It's fun.

Spoiler: Now then... (click to show/hide)

I want to talk about the Scarecrow segments, because they were awesome.  After the first two, I thought that the whole "hey you're actually playing a videogame" aspect was completely ignored and that the command prompts kind of cheesed things up.  Boy was I wrong.  But for the sake of entertainment, I will present my reactions in interpretive recollection.

Spoiler: Reactions to first Scarecrow scene (click to show/hide)

As soon as I heard Batman coughing I knew what was coming.  It's pretty obvious after watching a room full of guys tearing their skin off that I'm about to get head-fucked, but I was cool with it.

"Coughing?  Shit, here we go.  What kind of dickery am I in for?  Cutscene maybe?  Well, I see the camera's tilted, that's a start.  Oh hey, Gordon's in trouble.  And dead.  But wait, he's not identified.  And Batman's eyes are glowing.  Aaand, now we get Crane's attempt at doctor humor.  Nice callback to Batman Begins."

So we get to the morgue.  I know something crazy has to be coming up, but nothing happens.  Sure, the doors start flapping and whispering, but I was expecting a zombie attack or something.

"Alright Crane, I don't have time to play with you right now.  I'll just be leaving..."  Walk through door.  "...Dammit.  Fine, I'll have your little fun.  Let's see, bodybags, oh boy.  Parents maybe?  Yep, there's mom, and dad.  So who's behind Sack #3, Gordon?  Dick?  Me?  What the crap...  Hey, nice makeover Crane, looks good.  So what's the gimmick this..."  Turn around to see-

NO THUGS
GIANT SCARECROW
SIDE-SCROLLING PLATFORMER
FINAL DESTINATION

"Oh balls, he's huge now.  And he's got laser eyes?  Fantastic."

Spoiler: Second scene (click to show/hide)

"Coughing?  Again?  Oh dammit, why.  The story's finally getting interesting and then-"  Hallway of Doom

"...Fucking Hell, that's cool.  So what do I get at the end?  Hey, nice, more backstory with Gordon.  Is this canon?  But seriously, Bruce, get over the parents already.  You're like forty five man, it's just sad."

The second stage's action parts were the comparatively blandest, except for the skeletons.  I want to, nay, have to believe they were an oblique commentary on how, thanks to the indispensable nightvision AKA Detective Mode, you spend most of the game beating up iridescent skeletons.

And the belltower exit was just great.  "Hey Bats, I don't think they heard you in fucking Metropolis."

Spoiler: Scene three AKA "I see you like videogames..." (click to show/hide)

"Homicidal wildmen, mutant plants, gorilla warriors.  Man, a dozen guys with guns seems downright quaint now.  Oh fuck yes, coughing.  What's it gonna be...  AH WHAT THE FUCK?  Oh you piece of shit drive!  I knew I shouldn't have gotten the off-brand external.  Oh goddammit I'm gonna be pissed if..."

The Scarecrow Signal

"Ooohhh.  Oh...  OOOOHHHH, fuck yes!  Oh yeah, it's motherfucking Joker time!  In your face, everyone who bought a Playstation.  Hey, Scarface for the warden?  Saw I presume.  Nice touch, I was wondering why they resurrected that bullshit concept.  Oh man, I can't wait to-  Hey, what's this shit, why am I Batman again?  I don't want to be Batman, I want to be Joker now!  Hey, what the fuck is this-"

Move the mouse to dodge Joker's gun.  Retry?  Cancel?

"...Wow, that's some serious bullshit.  I'm supposed to see that coming?  Alright Psycho Mantis, if you want to play this game, we'll play this game.  Man, what a fucking mood kill.  Just gotta hit Retry and..."

R.I.P Bruce Wayne

"Hey, what's this?  What the Hell is...  Oh damn.  Wow.  Fine, I admit it.  Well played Mantis, well played."

Were I in charge, I might have done things differently, like meld the "action" parts more to the real-world areas, maybe introduced some command-prompt dickery earlier on.  But if anything, the least satisfying part is that you don't get to kick his ass in the end.  One more reason to hate Croc.

[ILikePie]

Aww, another game where all you cool rich kids get to talk about it in spoiler tags.

The game looks great, and friends say it is great. I might will get the demo later. If (When?) I get a PS3, I will buy this as one of my first games.

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I wanna be a cool rich kid too 

[umiman]

Yeah, all the boss fights in the game were retarded. It always feels like playing a matador or something.

I also never understood how minions could survive explosions from the explosive gel while concrete walls (albeit weak ones) could not.

[ILikePie]

Its batman sir. Never question the dark knight, or the way he does things. He just does.

[umiman]

Psh, Batman could suck on my giant stee-

[Aqizzar]

They're called weak walls for a reason.  You do get to just pull them down by hand later on, although I might call that an artifact of the whole "everything's destroyed by plants" business.

Besides, that's what the bat-shaped spray pattern is for.  It's a shaped-charge implosion.  No really.

[Jreengus]

No, if you pirate the game, you can't jump. People worked around it, but for a while it was delicious.

Correction, if you have no access to GFWL you can't jump. Legal customers with no desire to have that piece of shit malware on their PC are screwed as well. They stealth patched it before release a few hours after the pirates detected it and then spun a bullshit tale of how it was intended as DRM.

If I recall correctly it was more along the lines of being unable to glide from gargoyles. At all. If you did Bats would fall down and die from poison gas. Not sure though.

Damn, that's hilarious.  Seriously, if I was making an anti-pirate measure, it'd be some clever fuck-you to the player.  And then, anyone who goes on the support forum to complain about it, bam - pirate identified.

The main problem was that everyone made a big fuss about how the anti piracy measure were ingenious but in reality they did nothing, one person got banned from their forums for reporting the "bug" (The idiot actually did it before the game was even released) and then before the game was even released the pirates had gotten past all the measures.

[Jude]

Anybody notice how after

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 the second Scarecrow fight, you're in a room that there is no possible way into?

[Aqizzar]

I think that's part of the gag, that you somehow worked your way up there.  That's why Joker makes that crack about nobody knowing where you are.  As for how Batman did it, beats me.  Wallclimb?

It's how he gets back down that I love.  Holy crap that's a strong floor.

[Luke_Prowler]

I freaking love this game. the smooth fighting, the streamline combination of stealth and beat 'm up, the great story and voice acting, it's just beautiful.

[Asehujiko]

Opinion on combat: Bland.
Opinion on stealth: Tacked on.
Opinion on graphics: Good but utterly generic. When i first saw the outside of the island i immediately thought "whiskey tango foxtrot, batman invaded CTF_Searchlight?"
Opinion on scarecrow sequences: Generic and overused but (for the most part) extremely well done.
Opinion on bosses: Retarded.

Overall, it's a great game if you see it on a checklist and was probably designed by a committee who works exclusively with checklists and pie charts. Otherwise it's an average game at best.