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mainiac

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Re: Singapore
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2009, 12:42:59 am »

100% may be too much, but even political extremists can buck their position strangely.  For instance oh so many elite liberals think the government should have forced the banks to declare bankruptcy last October even though that is the C+ position.  (In their defense, the only other alternative discussed was the C position of bail them out without any strings attached at the time.)  Or a recent USAToday poll shows that half of republicans want higher taxes on the rich, the liberal position, a number that surely included some arch conservatives given the state of the GOP.  I'd say 90% swing on the issues is possible even with arch conservatives being around.
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Re: Singapore
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2009, 08:57:47 pm »

100% may be too much, but even political extremists can buck their position strangely.  For instance oh so many elite liberals think the government should have forced the banks to declare bankruptcy last October even though that is the C+ position.  (In their defense, the only other alternative discussed was the C position of bail them out without any strings attached at the time.)  Or a recent USAToday poll shows that half of republicans want higher taxes on the rich, the liberal position, a number that surely included some arch conservatives given the state of the GOP.  I'd say 90% swing on the issues is possible even with arch conservatives being around.

True, but 100% Elite Liberal on 50% of the issues, and 70-80% liberal on the other 50%, is still very odd - and it's not uncommon in LCS. I can achieve that my by second year.

I would say the swing should function like this:

40-60%: Moderates(Swayed by events in the same degree all opinions are)
20-80%: Conservatives/Liberals(Roughly 200% harder to sway from events, but can be done)
10-90%: Arch-Conservative/Elite Liberal(Roughly 400% harder to sway from events)
0-100%: Insane(Views will never change. Must be eliminated.)

This way, it will take roughly 12x more work to get a political issue to 90% as it currently takes to get 100%. This seems like a lot, but keep in mind it will also take 12x as much to sway back to conservative viewpoints. IF the political system was more responsive, I would enjoy this system more.
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Re: Singapore
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2009, 09:06:14 pm »

Politics on each issue is modeled as a number from 1 to 100, representing the percent of people who agree with Liberals on that issue. Weighting it so that movement results in diminishing returns as you get to the extremes makes sense, but we're not talking just individuals here, but a whole aggregate. One possibility is that I could simply compress the displayed scale so that 100% is shown as 80% or 90%, and 1% is shown as 20% or 10%, while keeping the actual behind the scenes mechanics as they are.
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Re: Singapore
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2009, 02:27:45 am »

Hmm... That might work. All I know is seeing these polls:


With this government:


Doesn't make much sense to me. You think by now the people would have risen up in revolt, or at least impeached somebody.
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Re: Singapore
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2009, 02:38:33 am »

During November, the people will be able to vote on propositions and thereby change laws that way.

During Congressional sessions, Congress is more likely to introduce liberal bills, but they will be vetoed anyway. Congress may be replaced with liberals, but not by a lot.

You have to wait a long time, until the Presidental election, before the government really get responsive. Really, RNG, your goal right now is to keep the government in a deadlock until you get the C+ President out of office. You already made him unpopular, you just have to keep it up.
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« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2009, 06:52:10 pm »

There really should be a kind of impeachment system for occasions that come up similar to Bush and Clinton's second terms. Opposition part in power in Congress, Bill Clinton impeached by the right, Bush had a lot of talk about impeachment from the left.
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Re: Singapore
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2009, 01:17:45 am »

I don't think that situation will come up too often in LCS because by year 4 the country probably has gone liberal permanently or the LCS is dead.
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Re: Singapore
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2009, 09:06:51 am »

It would mitigate the late game holding W until the Liberal Agenda is Victorious.
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