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[OneRaven]

The elves have arrived! 

Ok, time to trade...

Wait, what?

According to the trade menu, my glass-encrusted chalk crafts, with a base value of between 100 and 400, are only worth 40-100 to these ungrateful treehuggers. Weirder still, some of the higher value crafts are worth less than the lower value crafts - a base-value 280 amulet is shown as 41, while a base-value 160 scepter is shown as 61. Right below that is a base-value 140 scepter worth...140.

Have I finally pushed so many cheap crafts on the elves that their value has gone down? And if that's the case, why isn't it consistent across the crafts? I wouldn't be surprised if scepters/amulets/etc are tracked separately, but not all scepters get the same value reduction, so I don't think that's it. Do crafts get worn down? And if so, shouldn't I be seeing xCraftx and xxCraftxx?

[Quietust]

They aren't decorated with clear glass, are they? After all, making clear glass requires pearlash, and making pearlash requires burning wood, and you know how the elves feel about wood...

[OneRaven]

Nope. I've been mass producing green glass in this fortress, and covering all my trade goods with it to bump up value. I made some clear glass but decided that it was a waste of wood for trade goods, when quantity could do just as well.

[Quietust]

Another thing to check would be that your (legendary) Broker is doing the trading rather than some random dwarf.

[OneRaven]

Yes. Some of the goods have the right price - all the large glass gems my mayor adores are the right price, and some of the crafts are full value - but others are significantly below their value, with no apparent rhyme or reason to the change.

[Demonic Gophers]

Are the undervalued crafts decorated with spikes?  Elves have [ITEM_IMPROVEMENT_MODIFIER:SPIKES:0] in their entity raw, so they may not like them.

[OneRaven]

That may have been it.

The humans came and bought the crafts at full price, so it was the elves' problem, not mine.

Edit: Elves came back next spring, and indeed, all the "discounted" crafts are spiky. They didn't bring anything worth buying anyway - in fact, nothing even worth seizing. Stupid elves!

[Kravick]

That may have been it.

The humans came and bought the crafts at full price, so it was the elves' problem, not mine.

Edit: Elves came back next spring, and indeed, all the "discounted" crafts are spiky. They didn't bring anything worth buying anyway - in fact, nothing even worth seizing. Stupid elves!

Confirming that elves are useless.  They don't even make good practice dummies in adventure mode as they die to fast.

[glueheaded]

Not even exotic animals?

And a related question, do animals bought from the elves attack captured elf invaders if they declare war on you?

[Skorpion]

That may have been it.

The humans came and bought the crafts at full price, so it was the elves' problem, not mine.

Edit: Elves came back next spring, and indeed, all the "discounted" crafts are spiky. They didn't bring anything worth buying anyway - in fact, nothing even worth seizing. Stupid elves!

Drown them all and toss their stuff in magma.