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winner

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Archer free fighting
« on: September 16, 2009, 07:16:36 pm »

If you covered a field in archery targets would archers not be able to shoot creatures that are in it?
« Last Edit: September 16, 2009, 07:22:35 pm by winner »
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Psychoceramics

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Re: Archer free fighting
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2009, 07:40:05 pm »

so your goal is to block line of sight? Archery targets may not work but regular walls would.
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winner

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Re: Archer free fighting
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2009, 07:50:56 pm »

my goal is to have an area with unimpeded movement but no danger of archers.
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Re: Archer free fighting
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2009, 07:55:00 pm »

Danger for whom? Creatures?  (Because dwarves can't shoot their buddies.  Not without a ballista.)
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Re: Archer free fighting
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2009, 07:59:00 pm »

Presumably the desire is to let his melee units attack enemy archer units without getting shot.

I have no idea if enemy arrows can hit your targets. You should experiment and find out.
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Re: Archer free fighting
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2009, 02:42:55 am »

Staggered walls would allow movement while preventing archery:
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#.#.#.
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#.#.#.
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# = wall
. = open space

Can archers shoot through upward stairways?
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Re: Archer free fighting
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2009, 02:52:31 am »

archers can't shoot diagonally, make a series of

X#X#X#X'#X#X#X#
#X#X#X#X#X#X#X
X#X#X#X#X#X#X#

and you should be fine
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Re: Archer free fighting
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2009, 03:12:49 am »

Archers can shoot diagonally, but it's usually nearly impossible for them, the arrow/bolt will most likely go to the side just a little, making it not perfectly diagonal.

I can say that a few nicely placed walls will force the archers into meelee, even if they can shoot once, as long as the dwarf has enough armour/wrestling skill he will be unharmed.


I am not sure if the archery targets work, it would be a very interesting experiment to see what happens.
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Re: Archer free fighting
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2009, 09:17:44 am »

Archers can shoot diagonally, but if constructed properly a checkerboard defense will make it nearly impossible for them to shoot before your melee dwarves can engage them. Try to set it up so your dwarves always have to move in a different direction to reach their target. This will keep them from running diagonally in a straight line towards their target, basically turning those bowgobs into lightly armed sword-gobs.
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Re: Archer free fighting
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2009, 03:38:02 pm »

The proper way to stop archers with walls is to use this layout:
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.#.#.#.#.#.#.
#.#.#.#.#.#.#
#.#.#.#.#.#.#
.#.#.#.#.#.#.
#.#.#.#.#.#.#
#.#.#.#.#.#.#
.#.#.#.#.#.#.
#.#.#.#.#.#.#
#.#.#.#.#.#.#
.#.#.#.#.#.#.
This blocks line of sight effectively in all directions and ensures your melee units can always get within two steps of the archers before being shot at.
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