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Vester

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Re: A segregated fortress.
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2009, 07:02:37 am »

You may have to "deal" with already-married pairs, though.
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Re: A segregated fortress.
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2009, 09:47:37 am »

Just disable pregnancy in the init.txt file.
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Re: A segregated fortress.
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2009, 11:08:34 am »

Not stunned but unconscious; when there is a collapse your dwarves momentarily go unconscious and at this point you can capture them in cage traps, but let them out soon or they'll starve.
Oh, right. I forgot stunning is something different.

Dwarfspores only germinate in maried wodwarfs. Being seperated, there should also be  no marriages.
Don't immigrants often show up married?
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Re: A segregated fortress.
« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2009, 12:34:45 pm »

Dwarfspores only germinate in maried wodwarfs. Being seperated, there should also be  no marriages.
Don't immigrants often show up married?
Umm... yeah, they occasionally do. Just kill one, segregation is evil anyhow. ;) 
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Re: A segregated fortress.
« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2009, 12:29:57 pm »

This will be fun.
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Re: A segregated fortress.
« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2009, 08:08:01 pm »

I sense... death... within this place.
And by this place, I mean this thread.
And by death, I mean TVTropes.
So, exactly what I already said. ::)
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Re: A segregated fortress.
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2009, 12:24:48 am »

Your airlock idea sounds extra fussy, actually. I think when you consider the sheer magnitude of stuff that needs to move back and forth you'll have trouble. Many fortresses run into barrel shortages. You'll have barrels split between the two fortresses, presumably men making them, but women usually filling them and returning them to the men full of booze and needing to be returned. With a large fortress, it's a LOT of moving.

Two ideas:

1) Create a shaft from one fortress to the other and a 2nd working in reverse. Put a stockpile at the top of the shaft for items to move to the other fortress and periodically designated it for dumping and unforbid the dumped items at the bottom.
2) Create shared stockpiles that are connected to each fortress but use a double floodgate design to ensure that only one fortress can access it at any time. A lever in one fortress opens one floodgate on the local side and closes one on the remote side, a lever in the other fortress does the same. Only when both levers are thrown can access shift from one fortress to another. If you create two that hold the same items (say booze), one can always be accessible to each fortress, so both production and consumption can be satisfied.

The second case would probably work best, particularly for moving a lot of mixed item types (food, booze, barrels, bags, stone). Use other stockpiles within the fortress set to take from/put to the airlock stockpiles to automatically empty/fill the airlocks when you switch rooms.

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Re: A segregated fortress.
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2009, 09:50:12 am »

FECKIT. I just escaped tropeslund. I swear, by the time the next release comes out, I will have read the entire of that bloody site.
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Re: A segregated fortress.
« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2009, 12:41:21 pm »

There is no end to the tropes. The tropes are where the internet will one day go to die. :P
What were we talking about? Segre... okay.

You could split the map in 3 thirds, wall off the two that'll be used for the segregated fortress, and use the middle third to deal with any immigrants you don't want before carefully letting them in?
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Re: A segregated fortress.
« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2009, 01:29:25 pm »

I tried something similar, except it was prisoners and guards.  Didn't turn out too well.

The way my airlock worked is a small room, with the only two entrances.  One entrance had a few floodgates, the other had a retracting bridge over a 1 Z level drop.

Both where connected to a lever.  Whenever the lever was pulled, it would activate both of them.  Since by default the bridge starts as passable and the floodgates start as impassable, whenever you pulled the lever it would change which side had access to the airlock.

Good luck, it's not easy.
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