Ok time to answer some rant questions and other people's comments.
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How long has this game been in development? How many times has the release date been pushed back?
In Both Spore and Dwarf Fortresses case... None
Spore has never had an official release date... so there is nothing to push back. there have only been unofficial guesses.
Dwarf Fortress never had an official release date to my knowledge either and hasn't had any guesses.
Dang Draco beat me to it.
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You would have to be so naive to think that anything innovative will come out of SpOrE or any other game
Ahh, Here we go... Innovative =/= good. Many innovative games were terrible such as Black and White 2. The things that make Spore Innovative will be in the game without question, to suggest such is to simply say Spore is not going to ever be out. If Spore does end up being terrible it doesn't mean it is any less Innovative.
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The core is basically the same
The two cores that Spore has that I am sure that none can say otherwise is
-The Editors
-Massive Singleplayer Game
I won't go in lengths... because all it will take if Spore to come out and Dwarf Fortress to be closer to V1...
But then again... people say Fable and Oblivion are the same only that, usually, oblivion is better. It usually takes a few weeks of argueing to get them to notice that they are different. So I guess we might as well put it to a rest.
This topic has really degraded... but I think we can draw the conclusions AT LEAST that
1) Dwarf Fortress officially has plans on not doing anything similar to Spore and most likely couldn't support such anyhow
and
2) The Community is against suggestions to make Dwarf Fortress like another game in general
-I am in that boat too... it gets annoying no matter what game it is on both ends.
The problem now is the conversation is so heated I don't think it will die. This is my first REAL heated arguement here... (not officially a flamewar until someone calls another stupid or something... no matter how heated it is)
My Stances:
1) Spore and Dwarf Fortress are both good games and both simulations that can similar a single or multiple worlds
2) Spore and Dwarf Fortress are however dramatically different games with stark similarities, however at heart they are different and try to achieve different goals.
3) Heated Arguements often turn to flame wars as easy as it is to say stupid... because that is usually what starts it.