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Matt_S

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Re: I can't kill a single Dwarf with 100 Whales
« Reply #75 on: July 20, 2014, 02:45:04 pm »
I have seen giant sperm whale corpses with weight less than 1 in arena mode.

Edit: After futher experimenting, butchering one of these whales gives only a skull with weight less than 1.  These bugged whales appeared 15 times out of 104 for me.
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Re: I can't kill a single Dwarf with 100 Whales
« Reply #76 on: July 20, 2014, 04:34:38 pm »
Quote from: Matt_S on July 20, 2014, 02:45:04 pm
I have seen giant sperm whale corpses with weight less than 1 in arena mode.

Edit: After futher experimenting, butchering one of these whales gives only a skull with weight less than 1.  These bugged whales appeared 15 times out of 104 for me.
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   [BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LENGTH:110:110:110:110:110:110:110]
   [BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HEIGHT:110:110:110:110:110:110:110]
   [BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:110:110:110:110:110:110:110]

Each of the 10 GSW produced 10 teeny-tiny skulls between them.
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Re: I can't kill a single Dwarf with 100 Whales
« Reply #77 on: July 21, 2014, 03:35:58 am »
Quote from: Sutremaine on July 20, 2014, 04:34:38 pm
Quote from: Matt_S on July 20, 2014, 02:45:04 pm
I have seen giant sperm whale corpses with weight less than 1 in arena mode.

Edit: After futher experimenting, butchering one of these whales gives only a skull with weight less than 1.  These bugged whales appeared 15 times out of 104 for me.
Tried
   [BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LENGTH:110:110:110:110:110:110:110]
   [BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HEIGHT:110:110:110:110:110:110:110]
   [BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:110:110:110:110:110:110:110]

Each of the 10 GSW produced 10 teeny-tiny skulls between them.

I tried the same with 95 and 105, got 10/10 working GSW's.

You should post your findings on the bug tracker.
Might help Toady fix it if he gets around to it.
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Re: I can't kill a single Dwarf with 100 Whales
« Reply #78 on: July 21, 2014, 09:13:12 am »
Quote from: Wimopy on July 21, 2014, 03:35:58 am
Quote from: Sutremaine on July 20, 2014, 04:34:38 pm
Quote from: Matt_S on July 20, 2014, 02:45:04 pm
I have seen giant sperm whale corpses with weight less than 1 in arena mode.

Edit: After futher experimenting, butchering one of these whales gives only a skull with weight less than 1.  These bugged whales appeared 15 times out of 104 for me.
Tried
   [BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LENGTH:110:110:110:110:110:110:110]
   [BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HEIGHT:110:110:110:110:110:110:110]
   [BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:110:110:110:110:110:110:110]

Each of the 10 GSW produced 10 teeny-tiny skulls between them.

I tried the same with 95 and 105, got 10/10 working GSW's.

You should post your findings on the bug tracker.
Might help Toady fix it if he gets around to it.
Yeah, this looks like a classic overflow issue.  Apparently, negative weights get censured to zero which is reported in-game as "<1Γ".
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Re: I can't kill a single Dwarf with 100 Whales
« Reply #79 on: July 21, 2014, 12:09:44 pm »
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So, if you looked up into the sky and saw a whale hurtling towards you, would you not run for your life? It would be easier to notice than something relatively the same size as you falling towards you. I can't tell if this theory is true, but I'm just using logic.

I've tried dropping them in a 3x3 pattern in groups of 5 over him so he can't dodge out of the way on time, and also dropping several waves of them at once. He still dodges all of them... it's quite amazing. I just tried it with cats too, and it didn't work. Dwarves just seem to be very good at getting out of the way of things being dropped on them I guess. :S

Clearly this needs to be "weaponized" into a dwarf FTL teleportation system, whereby a huge line of hundreds (or however many is required) of whales are dropped all at once, causing a dwarf to instantaneously appear faster than the speed of light on the other side in one tick
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Dwarf fortress in 50 words: You start with seven alcoholic, manic-depressive dwarves. You build a fortress in the wilderness where EVERYTHING tries to kill you, including your own dwarves. Usually, your chief imports are immigrants, beer, and optimism. Your chief exports are misery, limestone violins, forest fires, elf tallow soap, and carved kitten bone.

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Re: I can't kill a single Dwarf with 100 Whales
« Reply #80 on: July 21, 2014, 12:32:38 pm »
Apparently at 3 feet per tile, you would need 59,014,263,360 tiles of sperm whales at once to break the speed of light.

A large embark is 16*48*16*48 = 589,824 tiles in area.  And up to a couple hundred or so tiles high = 118,000,000 tiles total, even if you could make this climb z levels.  Sadly, not possible to do.
(But WOULD be possible in an entire large or even medium world with no embark limits =P)
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Re: I can't kill a single Dwarf with 100 Whales
« Reply #81 on: July 21, 2014, 02:17:20 pm »
Sounds like the commoner railgun.
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