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[TerminatorII]

so in year second of my fortress I was happily mining along looking for the underground river, when I struck the BOTTOM of a HFS area. haven't mined out any "special" stone or anything, and yet with a masive pop of 46 I get teh king two years later. (already had the dungeon master but no other nobles) and this is in the fourth year of this fortress, I have only gotten two caravans, gotten sieged by the elves, (first winter but not since) and have only *just* gotten metal working and a dining hall going. (until this year I only had 25 dwarves)

[ChairmanPoo]

Wait a sec- so HFS is not in the deepest level by default?

[Sphalerite]

There is always a vertical tunnel from the main HFS chamber to a bottomless pit on the bottommost layer, but the main HFS chamber can be some distance above the bottommost map layer.  So it is possible to be mining around on the bottommost layer, hit the glowing pits, and get the mysterious chamber message without ever having seen the 'special' stone..

[TerminatorII]

exactly... in this case  I was 5 levels below the surface, and 15 from the bottom of the map. I hit the very bottom most layer of the pit (it was 4 levels tall) I.E. This pit was nearly at the surface.

[taf_esra]

Never seen that happen before. It would have been funnier if you hit the top with your starting 7

[Rowanas]

hey... if the HFS was only one layer down, could you shoot down and use demons as target practice?

[puke]

i think thats a potential exploit any time you open the pit from the top.  in one of the old dev notes, toady said they would just sit there and be shot at.  this may have been fixed in later versions though, now that some of the demons fly.

but yeah, if you dont have any flying demons, then all you would have to do is mine around the top of the pit and send in the marksdwarfs.