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Byakugan01

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Maximum number of large predators possible
« on: June 21, 2009, 02:29:38 pm »
I'm fiddling around in the raws, and noticed that supposedly I can only have ONE (maybe two) groups of large predators on the map at once. Is it possible to get around this by putting them in rivers (like alligators)? Or would it be necessary to make them subterranean in order for me to get multiple groups? I'm making quite a few savage creatures as an attempt to make savage areas much more dangerous, so I'd like to know if there is a workaround.
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Re: Maximum number of large predators possible
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2009, 02:37:24 pm »
"Predatory" surroundings can have at most one group of carnivorous creatures (which excludes hippos and elephants). "Savage" surroundings can have up to two.

I'm not sure whether river creatures count towards this.
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Re: Maximum number of large predators possible
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2009, 03:19:36 pm »
Thanks, I'll give the river and subterreanean tags a try and see if that helps. On another note, is there a way to control the behavior of a creature so that it stays in the water most of the time and only comes onto shore occasionally?
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From Mr. Welch's 1350 things he is not allowed to do in a RPG:
148. There is no Gnomish Deathgrip, and even if there was, it wouldn't involve tongs.
171. My character's dying words are not allowed to be "Hastur, Hastur, Hastur"
218. No matter my alignment, organizing halfling pit fights is a violation.
231. I am not allowed to do anything that would make a Sith Lord cry.
240. Any character with more than three skills specializing in chainsaw is vetoed.

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Re: Maximum number of large predators possible
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2009, 03:23:11 pm »
Quote from: Byakugan01 on June 21, 2009, 03:19:36 pm
Thanks, I'll give the river and subterreanean tags a try and see if that helps. On another note, is there a way to control the behavior of a creature so that it stays in the water most of the time and only comes onto shore occasionally?

No, I don't think so.
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Re: Maximum number of large predators possible
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2009, 03:32:40 pm »
Ah okay, thanks for the help. One last question: is it possible to give a creature a different swim speed than its speed on land?
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From Mr. Welch's 1350 things he is not allowed to do in a RPG:
148. There is no Gnomish Deathgrip, and even if there was, it wouldn't involve tongs.
171. My character's dying words are not allowed to be "Hastur, Hastur, Hastur"
218. No matter my alignment, organizing halfling pit fights is a violation.
231. I am not allowed to do anything that would make a Sith Lord cry.
240. Any character with more than three skills specializing in chainsaw is vetoed.

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Re: Maximum number of large predators possible
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2009, 03:36:20 pm »
Yep.

[SPEED:n] is for land speed, [SWIM_SPEED:n] is for swimming speed. I think they both use the same system, you can read about it on the wiki if you don't already know about speed calculations.
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Re: Maximum number of large predators possible
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2009, 04:29:37 am »
They do both use the same system.
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Re: Maximum number of large predators possible
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2009, 05:53:30 am »
hm, well it appears that, some way or another, rivers *can* get around the restrictions on large predators. Namely because I was able to have 3 different large predators on the map-but that may have been due to having selected the maximum grid size. The rest of it was pages upon pages of hippos, carp, and milkfish.
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From Mr. Welch's 1350 things he is not allowed to do in a RPG:
148. There is no Gnomish Deathgrip, and even if there was, it wouldn't involve tongs.
171. My character's dying words are not allowed to be "Hastur, Hastur, Hastur"
218. No matter my alignment, organizing halfling pit fights is a violation.
231. I am not allowed to do anything that would make a Sith Lord cry.
240. Any character with more than three skills specializing in chainsaw is vetoed.