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Corona688

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[40D] Cannot build hanging millstone
« on: May 27, 2009, 10:58:06 pm »

My mechanic refuses to build a millstone over an empty space, connected to a grounded drive shaft.  its description on invalid squares states 'needs ground or near machine' so I figured, like shafts or windmills or pumps or water wheels its the shaft that matters and not the floor.  Not so.  My mechanic won't haul the millstone across the room to it, he sits there with 'no job'.  The same square worked fine when it had a floor.
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Corona688

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Re: [40D] Cannot build hanging millstone
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2009, 11:17:33 pm »

Okay, experimented a bit.  I was able to build a functioning, hanging millstone by deconstructing its floor after it was built.  But the miller couldn't use it, so I guess it needs a floor to actually be used.  So 'requires ground or near machine' should be 'requires ground and near machine'.
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Re: [40D] Cannot build hanging millstone
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2009, 11:44:47 am »

You should be able to build it on top of a gear assembly. I don't think you can connect machinery (of any type except gear assemblies) directly to shafts.
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Re: [40D] Cannot build hanging millstone
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2009, 03:32:08 pm »

You should be able to build it on top of a gear assembly. I don't think you can connect machinery (of any type except gear assemblies) directly to shafts.

I have numerous pumps connected directly to shafts, I have had Millstones connected to Horizontal shafts. You don't need gear assemblies to connect to machines, machines can connect to shafts.

I think the problem the OP is having is that all buildings need to be built at least partly on solid ground, and with the Millstone being only 1 square in size that means any power connected to it must come from one of the sides.

I wonder though if you can have the power come from the top.
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Re: [40D] Cannot build hanging millstone
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2009, 02:50:56 am »

I typiicly have my milstones powered from above... indeed, if i have a windmill farm, several of the L bends in the power line are active millstones.
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Re: [40D] Cannot build hanging millstone
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2009, 08:39:27 am »

It goes without saying that if the dwarf cant reach an adjacent square to the millstone he cannot use it or build it.
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Re: [40D] Cannot build hanging millstone
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2009, 07:03:17 pm »

It goes without saying that if the dwarf cant reach an adjacent square to the millstone he cannot use it or build it.
Oh, they can get adjacent to it easily.  It is surrounded by floor.  But to use a millstone you have to be right on the same square as it I guess.  I tend toward massive centralized powersystems driven by water wheels, so this one's driven from the side...

And sure you can build machinery unsupported by anything except shafts or assemblies.  windmills anyone?  Besides, the groundless millstone worked, just nobody could get to it.
« Last Edit: May 29, 2009, 07:07:01 pm by Corona688 »
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Re: [40D] Cannot build hanging millstone
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2009, 11:11:40 pm »

And sure you can build machinery unsupported by anything except shafts or assemblies.  windmills anyone?  Besides, the groundless millstone worked, just nobody could get to it.

Right, because when they use it, they're literally standing in the same square.
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Re: [40D] Cannot build hanging millstone
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2009, 02:28:59 pm »

It does help to have a place to stand when performing manual labor.
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Re: [40D] Cannot build hanging millstone
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2009, 02:29:57 pm »

Is feeding a hopper really manual labour?
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Re: [40D] Cannot build hanging millstone
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2009, 12:25:00 pm »

Is feeding a hopper really manual labour?
If it's done by hand, yes :D  Nobody said it was hard though :P
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