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doctorspoof

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Can you smelt blocks of an ore?
« on: May 14, 2009, 04:32:14 pm »

Umm, title says it all really..

I mean, i can't find any cassiterite anywhere, and the traders have some, but only in block form. I'm wondering if i can use this along with my copper to make bronze? Or do i have to do the metal bin re-melt thing to get it back in stone form?
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Re: Can you smelt blocks of an ore?
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2009, 04:41:42 pm »

Yes we  you can!

I always do it that way to train up my smelters. (with no extra cost if you use magma)
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Re: Can you smelt blocks of an ore?
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2009, 04:42:42 pm »

I believe you can melt them down at your forge.  Works great if you have magma.  I don't  :-[
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Re: Can you smelt blocks of an ore?
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2009, 04:43:57 pm »

Sweet.

Cheers guys.
Just gotta wait for next spring and then EVERYTHING will be made of bronze :D
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Re: Can you smelt blocks of an ore?
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2009, 04:45:46 pm »

I've never been able to find anything except iron ores on my maps.  Weird.
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Re: Can you smelt blocks of an ore?
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2009, 04:48:09 pm »

You might be picking a similar rock layer each time. Each type of rock layer yields different types of rocks (obviously) which then yield different ores. Which is why people sometimes find it hard to find iron ore on a map with a volcano. Try picking a completly different strating location : )
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Re: Can you smelt blocks of an ore?
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2009, 05:29:13 pm »

Exactly.

One word: Granite.

(Tho' Marble is a good one too!)

Read the wiki on the ores you never see.  Not so much with copper (which should be "anywhere"), but with  cassiterite (tin -> bronze) and bismuthinite, they are granite-only. Granite is only one of two layers (w/ gneiss) that has silver.  Garnierite (nickel) is gabbro only, as is kimberlite (not a metal ore, but only place you'll find diamonds).

I'm surprised you've never found copper in one form or another (nuggets, malachite, tetrahedrite) - for me, it's always falling out of the hillsides, there for the world to see from day one.

Maybe you need to reconsider what you are looking for in preferred rock layers for an embark site. Or which ones you are choosing to mine? (Or just your exploratory mining techniques? Good article in the wiki on that too.)
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Re: Can you smelt blocks of an ore?
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2009, 09:11:48 pm »

I always look for chalk. I swear by it after getting multiple locations where I have a Magma pipe immediately surrounded on three sides by magnetite patches, two with platinum veins inside. All on one z-level.
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Re: Can you smelt blocks of an ore?
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2009, 09:43:27 pm »

I always look for chalk. I swear by it after getting multiple locations where I have a Magma pipe immediately surrounded on three sides by magnetite patches, two with platinum veins inside. All on one z-level.
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Re: Can you smelt blocks of an ore?
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2009, 04:45:59 pm »

Rock salt.  Lignite and magnetite.  I'm good on iron for a while...
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Re: Can you smelt blocks of an ore?
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2009, 06:02:15 pm »

I always look for chalk...

Rock salt.  Lignite and magnetite...

Any sedimetary or flux is a good plan - this is not news. Most flux are sedimentary, and will tend to have the coal veins and the massive magnetite deposits.  Limestone, dolomite, flux ftw.

Marble is a flux that is not sedimentary, and so is often found where sedimentary is not.  And it has advantages the others don't, like richer in gems and other top-value ores (tho' you still want sedimentary for the coal and magnetite.)

But other than flux and sedimentary, there are some layers that tend to suck (diorite, rhyolite, as two off the top of my head) and others that Do-Not-Suck.  You need to look for those "others" if you want a good, rich selection of ores.
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Re: Can you smelt blocks of an ore?
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2009, 06:37:39 pm »

You will be either poor, or rich with a funky colored fortress.  With stripes.  Take that OCD peoples.
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Re: Can you smelt blocks of an ore?
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2009, 09:34:15 pm »

I dunno - those microcline/orpiment/olivine walls make my eyes hurt.
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