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Detrivus

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Two Questions
« on: April 15, 2009, 05:55:06 pm »

First:  Some of my dwarves (population 103, goblin sieges well underway but thoroughly stymied thus far) have fallen victim to random unconsciousness, even though no wounds are inflicted.  Upon reading "thoughts and preferences" for said dwarves, one common pattern is they all report being attacked.  What's the deal?

Second:  Is there a way to stockpile bones without just marking them for a garbage dump?

Bonus Question!:  Why does all my crap sit on my depot?  Don't these lazy dwarves ever haul it to the appropriate stockpile?
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Shoku

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Re: Two Questions
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2009, 06:03:32 pm »

2: refuse stockpile. You can disable everything else if you want specifically the stuff that won't rot further.
Bonus: you sure they have available stockpiles or the right type?
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Detrivus

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Re: Two Questions
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2009, 06:06:45 pm »

2: Will try this.
Bonus: Absolutely.  For instance, there's like 7 bins of cloth on the depot, and an empty cloth stockpile two stories down with nothing deactivated.
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Jim Groovester

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Re: Two Questions
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2009, 06:11:37 pm »

1: Maybe your dwarves have more injuries than is apparent. Remember that you can scroll on the wounds screen, so maybe they're missing an eye or something.

Bonus: Deconstruct the depot. That should work.
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Skorpion

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Re: Two Questions
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2009, 06:13:41 pm »

Doesen't always work. Mark 'em for dumping.
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The *large serrated steel disk* strikes the Raven in the head, tearing apart the muscle, shattering the skull, and tearing apart the brain!
A tendon in the skull has been torn!
The Raven has been knocked unconcious!

Elves do it in trees. Humans do it in wooden structures. Dwarves? Dwarves do it underground. With magma.

Detrivus

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Re: Two Questions
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2009, 06:24:25 pm »

Follow-up question:  Is there anything I can do about my dwarves chucking clothing all over the place?  Once again, other than dump it?  Namely in the barracks and meeting hall.
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Re: Two Questions
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2009, 06:34:18 pm »

Follow-up: Those are probably your soldiers tearing each other's clothes off as they wreslte. Letting them practice with weapons will make them stop ripping their clothes off.

As for all the clothes lying around, deactivate the barracks, stand down all of your soldiers, set their armor preferences to clothes, and then give them all cabinets and coffers. If you're lucky, they might pick their crap up. If not, you can just toss it in magma.
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Detrivus

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Re: Two Questions
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2009, 06:40:00 pm »

Those are probably your soldiers tearing each other's clothes off as they wreslte.

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Shoku

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Re: Two Questions
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2009, 07:06:55 pm »

2+ : Also you may need to set the refuse options for dwarves to gather it from the outdoors when that's where they are.
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Re: Two Questions
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2009, 07:51:33 pm »

As for dwarves randomly falling unconscious, there's one big cause for this: permanent injuries. Dwarves who have survived losing limbs/eyes/etc. and rejoined productive society may still fall unconscious from the pain from time to time. Sort of a "Oh, yeah, I lost an eye a few months back. Oh, hey, that really hurts! *urk*" type of thing.

Don't cave spiders have a paralyzing bite, too? If you're near a chasm or pit, that might be a problem.
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Re: Two Questions
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2009, 08:42:41 pm »

2:  If it is bins of clothing that won't move, perhaps you don't allow bins in the clothing stockpile.  Check the stockpile [q] and verify that the bins setting is not at 0.  It defaults to maximum, if you originally use a stockpile type that makes sense with bins, but if you designate, for example, an animal stockpile, and only after creating it change it to clothing, then the bin count will still be zero, because it was originally an animal stockpile which doesn't use bins.
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Re: Two Questions
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2009, 09:24:37 pm »

Follow-up question:  Is there anything I can do about my dwarves chucking clothing all over the place?  Once again, other than dump it?  Namely in the barracks and meeting hall.

Hide and dump-designate. It'll get thrown out eventually. Or it won't.

Magma.
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The *large serrated steel disk* strikes the Raven in the head, tearing apart the muscle, shattering the skull, and tearing apart the brain!
A tendon in the skull has been torn!
The Raven has been knocked unconcious!

Elves do it in trees. Humans do it in wooden structures. Dwarves? Dwarves do it underground. With magma.

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Re: Two Questions
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2009, 02:58:51 am »

Bonus Question!:  Why does all my crap sit on my depot?  Don't these lazy dwarves ever haul it to the appropriate stockpile?

They get round to it eventually.  Although it takes mine a season or so to clear out a small caravan load, despite the empty stockpiles.
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