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Woodcutter-Wrestler = confused dwarf
« on: October 17, 2008, 10:48:33 pm »

Justed noted that when a military dwarf, wrestler, has Woodcutting assigned as a job, he will try to pick up an axe because he's a woodcutter, then drop it because he's a wrestler, then pick it up because he's a woodcutter, ad infinitum.
Military tools should obviously override the civilian requirements.
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Re: Woodcutter-Wrestler = confused dwarf
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2008, 10:30:27 am »

My experience has always been that setting weapon preferences will clear professions as needed. So I did some poking around, and:

If you set a woodcutter to wrestle from the [p]refs/[s]oldiering screen then the woodcutter profession will remain set. Selecting any other weapon, or anything including wrestling in the [m]ilitary screen, will clear the woodcutter profession. Of course, all bets are off if you use profession setting via memory hacks.
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Re: Woodcutter-Wrestler = confused dwarf
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2008, 08:38:12 pm »

My experience has always been that setting weapon preferences will clear professions as needed. So I did some poking around, and:

If you set a woodcutter to wrestle from the [p]refs/[s]oldiering screen then the woodcutter profession will remain set. Selecting any other weapon, or anything including wrestling in the [m]ilitary screen, will clear the woodcutter profession. Of course, all bets are off if you use profession setting via memory hacks.

So it affects your wrestler dwarves too?
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Re: Woodcutter-Wrestler = confused dwarf
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2008, 11:03:02 pm »

Once you work out how to get a dwarf into the nonsensical woodcutter+wrestler state, then its pretty easy to reproduce. I can go from embark to confused dwarf in less time than it took to write this.

My point was that the game logic tries (and fails, in one case) to keep dwarfs out of being both woodcutter and wrestler, rather than trying to sensibly handle their behaviour once in that state.

In the same way, setting mining clears woodcutting and vice-versa, but if you somehow managed to get a dwarf into a miner+woodcutter state, you would no doubt get wacky behaviour. (Hmm. I wonder if the Embark Now random professions check this?)
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Re: Woodcutter-Wrestler = confused dwarf
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2008, 09:12:38 am »

(Hmm. I wonder if the Embark Now random professions check this?)

Actually, the play now! professions are fixed.
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Re: Woodcutter-Wrestler = confused dwarf
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2008, 09:55:51 pm »

Justed noted that when a military dwarf, wrestler, has Woodcutting assigned as a job, he will try to pick up an axe because he's a woodcutter, then drop it because he's a wrestler, then pick it up because he's a woodcutter, ad infinitum.
Military tools should obviously override the civilian requirements.

Urist Mcdwavenwrestlerslashwoodcutter

Hmm... I got drafted!? Oh well, time to get ready for sparring or war! Wait a minute, can't spar as a wrestler with an axe! ...Than again, I could be undrafted at any moments notice. Course I can't practice being a wrestler with an axe! No matter how many times I bash my buddie with it... than again, no wait, thaaan again, wait can't, hooold on, ah no can't carry it with me, etc.

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Either he's having an identity crisis or it's just some new funny bug that someone pointed out.

Really though, if you need something to laugh at just check out the bugs section, fun stuff.
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Re: Woodcutter-Wrestler = confused dwarf
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2008, 02:05:51 pm »

Justed noted that when a military dwarf, wrestler, has Woodcutting assigned as a job, he will try to pick up an axe because he's a woodcutter, then drop it because he's a wrestler, then pick it up because he's a woodcutter, ad infinitum.
Military tools should obviously override the civilian requirements.

Urist Mcdwavenwrestlerslashwoodcutter

Hmm... I got drafted!? Oh well, time to get ready for sparring or war! Wait a minute, can't spar as a wrestler with an axe! ...Than again, I could be undrafted at any moments notice. Course I can't practice being a wrestler with an axe! No matter how many times I bash my buddie with it... than again, no wait, thaaan again, wait can't, hooold on, ah no can't carry it with me, etc.

Kogan Mcwatcher

What's Urist doing? Tosid?

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Either he's having an identity crisis or it's just some new funny bug that someone pointed out.

Really though, if you need something to laugh at just check out the bugs section, fun stuff.



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Re: Woodcutter-Wrestler = confused dwarf
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2008, 05:25:57 pm »

Engraved on the wall is an image of a Yanlin and a Group of people with 56k modems by Urist Tamunshin. The Yanlin is striking down the Group of people with 56k modems. This artwork relates to the posting of an insanely big picture on the Bay12games forum by Yanlin in the Spring of 2008.
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Re: Woodcutter-Wrestler = confused dwarf
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2008, 01:59:18 am »

Is the picture a reference to this story?

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Re: Woodcutter-Wrestler = confused dwarf
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2008, 04:17:33 pm »

Engraved on the wall is an image of a Yanlin and a Group of people with 56k modems by Urist Tamunshin. The Yanlin is striking down the Group of people with 56k modems. This artwork relates to the posting of an insanely big picture on the Bay12games forum by Yanlin in the Spring of 2008.

You're gonna force me to repost that image.
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Re: Woodcutter-Wrestler = confused dwarf
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2008, 02:35:49 am »

I actually had this glitch a few moths back. Drafted a wood cutter to get his ass inside (or something along those lines) and he just stood there. Eventually told him to get an ax, then he decided to fall into a martial trance and wipe out two gobbo squads then rush back in. Then the power went out and the save was lost.
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Re: Woodcutter-Wrestler = confused dwarf
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2008, 07:59:42 pm »

lol

FTW! I thought that Lemmiwinks thing was just one of the many rectal-jokes SP is full of.... never thought people might actually try this...felching...or that it was based upon reality.
Lost some innocence there....now I'm wondering whether aortal fucking is also practiced in truth.

sorry. I have no relevant comment to make on the bug.
besides that moths and most insects are attracted to light.
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Re: Woodcutter-Wrestler = confused dwarf
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2008, 08:15:36 pm »

Okay, I'll note it down.
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