Bay 12 Games Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

Author Topic: Rome total war: Barbarian invasion  (Read 3208 times)

Jackrabbit

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Rome total war: Barbarian invasion
« on: March 23, 2009, 04:46:18 am »
We love Total war, or at least, a lot of us do. Come on in, come one, come all! (for rome total war, cause I can't run empire and regardless, there's a thread about that.)

So, I was playing as the Saxons, (Could have been subliminal messaging, the feature in all the box art and gameplay movies) and I have to say, I really liked them. For one, the simplicity. Once you advance far enough, you can get either crazy badass axe dudes or sensible badass professional swordsmen who can kick any of Rome's infantry one on one (Though they take heavy casualties). But I noticed something.

After knocking on Rome's door, knocking it down, trashing their place and going through their mail, I noticed something odd. They had access to the best siege facilities money can buy, so why can't the Saxons get any siege weapons? I know they're barbarians but I took this place with several solid steel siege towers (though to be honest the defenders were so pitiful I didn't need them) and I'm starting to wonder if I'm compensating for something. It's depressing.
Logged

mainiac

  • Bay Watcher
  • Na vazeal kwah-kai
    • View Profile
Re: Rome total war: Barbarian invasion
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2009, 05:52:32 am »
Why can't you <any plausible thing> in the RTW:BI campaign?

Because the campaign aspect of RTW is shallow and BI barely improved upon that.
Logged
Ancient Babylonian god of RAEG
--------------
[CAN_INTERNET]
[PREFSTRING:google]
"Don't tell me what you value. Show me your budget and I will tell you what you value"
« Last Edit: February 10, 1988, 03:27:23 pm by UR MOM »
Quote from: misko27 on October 20, 2016, 10:52:51 pm
mainiac is always a little sarcastic, at least.

RAM

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Rome total war: Barbarian invasion
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2009, 08:02:33 am »
Gah, I just got Medieval ii and can't get past the idiotic copy protection, i mean, if it gave you any information at all about what it's problem was it might... ... ... ...

Heh, I like phalanxes, I once charged elephants into the front of a phalanx, just to see what would happen... happy hoplites! I guess that the ultimate charge is no match for the ultimate formation. They just need to make it so that phalanxes can't get flanked, then it would be the perfect game, hmm, maybe give them laser vision too!
Logged
Vote (1) for the Urist scale!
Quote from: Firnagzen on July 04, 2009, 01:01:52 am
I shall be eternally happy. I shall be able to construct elf hunting giant mecha. Which can pour magma.
Quote from: Muz on January 05, 2010, 10:01:54 am
Urist has been forced to use a friend as fertilizer lately.
Read the First Post!

Torak

  • Bay Watcher
  • God of Gods of Blood.
    • View Profile
Re: Rome total war: Barbarian invasion
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2009, 08:48:35 am »
Quote from: mainiac on March 23, 2009, 05:52:32 am
Why can't you <any plausible thing> in the RTW:BI campaign?

Because the campaign aspect of RTW is shallow and BI barely improved upon that.

Some mods help fix the campaign mode to be more fun/challenging/make the AI be less pathetic.
Logged
As you journey to the center of the world, feel free to read the death announcements of those dwarves that suffer your neglect.

One billion b-balls dribbling simultaneously throughout the galaxy. One trillion b-balls being slam dunked through a hoop throughout the cosmos. I can feel every single b-ball that has ever existed at my fingertips, I can feel their collective knowledge channeling through my veins. Every jumpshot, every rebound and three-pointer, every layup, dunk and free throw.

Tormy

  • Bay Watcher
  • I shall not pass?
    • View Profile
Re: Rome total war: Barbarian invasion
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2009, 09:23:07 am »
Just a question. How is the AI in this game? I guess it must be horrible, just like in the other TW games.  :-X
Logged

mainiac

  • Bay Watcher
  • Na vazeal kwah-kai
    • View Profile
Re: Rome total war: Barbarian invasion
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2009, 09:51:56 am »
Quote from: Tormy on March 23, 2009, 09:23:07 am
Just a question. How is the AI in this game? I guess it must be horrible, just like in the other TW games.  :-X

I think BI was the high water mark for AI in the TW series.  Same idiocy on the campaign level, and doesn't know when to quit on the tactical level.  But with roughly even numbers, the AI comports itself somewhat decently for a while.  But it's very predictable and easy to manipulate after a while.
Logged
Ancient Babylonian god of RAEG
--------------
[CAN_INTERNET]
[PREFSTRING:google]
"Don't tell me what you value. Show me your budget and I will tell you what you value"
« Last Edit: February 10, 1988, 03:27:23 pm by UR MOM »
Quote from: misko27 on October 20, 2016, 10:52:51 pm
mainiac is always a little sarcastic, at least.

umiman

  • Bay Watcher
  • Voice Fetishist
    • View Profile
Re: Rome total war: Barbarian invasion
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2009, 12:54:19 pm »
Quote from: RAM on March 23, 2009, 08:02:33 am
Gah, I just got Medieval ii and can't get past the idiotic copy protection, i mean, if it gave you any information at all about what it's problem was it might... ... ... ...

Heh, I like phalanxes, I once charged elephants into the front of a phalanx, just to see what would happen... happy hoplites! I guess that the ultimate charge is no match for the ultimate formation. They just need to make it so that phalanxes can't get flanked, then it would be the perfect game, hmm, maybe give them laser vision too!
Maybe you can put two phalanxes back-to-back?
Logged

WorkerDrone

  • Bay Watcher
  • Hey, if you can dream it, you can do it!
    • View Profile
Re: Rome total war: Barbarian invasion
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2009, 02:32:29 pm »
AND ALSO SIDE TO SIDE! AND CORNER FROM CORNER!

Damn. We just invented the ULTIMATE turtle strategy.
Logged

Toady Two

  • Bay Watcher
  • [CAN_SCIENCE]
    • View Profile
Re: Rome total war: Barbarian invasion
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2009, 02:38:25 pm »
Try Europa Barbarorum. Its a mod for R:TM  that removes the bullshit and places historically data in its place. It play since before the First Punic War and Rome isn't destined to win at all. You might as well conquer as the Gaul or Carthage.

http://www.europabarbarorum.com/

Logged

Toady Three

  • Escaped Lunatic
  • Hermetica
    • View Profile
Re: Rome total war: Barbarian invasion
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2009, 02:43:04 pm »
I recommend that mod too. If you're playing Medieval 2, you might also want to check out the Ultimate AI mod.
Logged

Ioric Kittencuddler

  • Bay Watcher
  • Multiclass Bard/Kitten trainer
    • View Profile
Re: Rome total war: Barbarian invasion
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2009, 07:23:13 pm »
I have all the total war games and their expansions except the first and the last.  I'm going to wait for the gold edition of Empire because I just don't feel comfortable getting it now with what I've heard about the pre-order crap or whatever.  I might as well get the best package. :P
Logged
Come see the MOST interesting Twitter account on the internet!  Mine!

Don't worry!  Be happy!  It's the law!

Tormy

  • Bay Watcher
  • I shall not pass?
    • View Profile
Re: Rome total war: Barbarian invasion
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2009, 09:21:33 am »
Quote from: Toady Three on March 23, 2009, 02:43:04 pm
I recommend that mod too. If you're playing Medieval 2, you might also want to check out the Ultimate AI mod.

I have Medieval II. Is this ultimate ai mod that good? I might give it a try.

Quote from: mainiac on March 23, 2009, 09:51:56 am
Quote from: Tormy on March 23, 2009, 09:23:07 am
Just a question. How is the AI in this game? I guess it must be horrible, just like in the other TW games.  :-X

I think BI was the high water mark for AI in the TW series.  Same idiocy on the campaign level, and doesn't know when to quit on the tactical level.  But with roughly even numbers, the AI comports itself somewhat decently for a while.  But it's very predictable and easy to manipulate after a while.

Thanks for the info.  :)
« Last Edit: March 24, 2009, 09:28:47 am by Tormy »
Logged

Asehujiko

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Rome total war: Barbarian invasion
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2009, 03:53:36 am »
BI is a mostly shallow attempt at toning down the romans a bit from the original. Play RTR(free mod) instead.
Logged
Code: [Select]
Tremble, mortal, and despair! Doom has come to this world!
.....EEEE..E..E.E...EEE.EE.EE.EEE.EE..EE.EE.E.EE.EE.E.EE.
......E..EE.EE.EE.EE..E...EEEE..E..E.E...EEE.EEE...E.EEE.
.☺..EE.E...E.EE.EE...E.EE..E..EE.EE.EE.EE..E...EE.EE..E.E
.....E..E.E.E.E.E.EE.E.E.EE.E...E.EE.EE...E.EE.EE.EEE...E
....E.EE.EEE.EE..EE.EE.E..EEEE..E..E.E...EEE.EEE..E.E..EE

Rilder

  • Bay Watcher
  • Rye Elder
    • View Profile
Re: Rome total war: Barbarian invasion
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2009, 03:56:13 am »
Quote from: Asehujiko on March 25, 2009, 03:53:36 am
BI is a mostly shallow attempt at toning down the romans a bit from the original. Play RTR(free mod) instead.

RTR feels like vanilla to me after playing EB.
Logged
Steam Profile
Youtube(Let's Plays), Occasional Streaming
Quote from: Puck on October 29, 2010, 08:08:05 am
It felt a bit like a movie in which two stoners try to steal a military helicopter