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[catpaw]

Clay is primarily comprised of very fine aluminosilicate particles, with varying degrees of hydration. In theory, you would be able to increase particle size via sintering (baaaasssically baking particles so that the edges melt together slightly), but the resulting product wouldn't be sand.

Well cintering isn't actually what exactly happens if  you put clay into the oven? You know to make bricks and vases, what people have been doing with clay since some millenia.

Now suppose you take a normal house-building brick, made of clay, and crush with the hammer on it really often... what do you get?

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But buttom line is, I don't get why the traders don't offer sand. Mostly because we consider it to be worthless, and not tradeworthy. Obviously in the world of DF sand can have enourmous value for some players.... So when caravans come with rock, they do, why not sand also?

[Osmosis Jones]

Now suppose you take a normal house-building brick, made of clay, and crush with the hammer on it really often... what do you get?

Crushed brick. Sand is a silicate, clay minerals are aluminosilicates. Similar name, but big chemical difference.

[Othob Rithol]

Getting sand from most anywhere sounds alright, but only if we introduce a difference between glassmaking-usable sand and more mundane sand.

Then what would be the point in making a change at all?

[catpaw]

Now suppose you take a normal house-building brick, made of clay, and crush with the hammer on it really often... what do you get?

Crushed brick. Sand is a silicate, clay minerals are aluminosilicates. Similar name, but big chemical difference.

So can crushed brick "sand" be used for glassproduction as well, or not?

[Osmosis Jones]

No.

[Align]

Getting sand from most anywhere sounds alright, but only if we introduce a difference between glassmaking-usable sand and more mundane sand.

Then what would be the point in making a change at all?

For realism? Or using sandbags elsewhere.
Glassmaking is broken, so that should be fixed before doing anything that'd make it even easier to exploit.

[viskaslietuvai]

Okay, so I realize that the separation of sand may not in reality produce sand usable for glassmaking, but I feel that there should be SOME way to get it either by commerce or manufacture. The lack of it cuts off such a variety of sites for me because glass is such a useful resource. I can do just fine without magma 'cause I can recreate it's effects. It doesn't cut off any industries, just the efficiency of them. That's fine with me. That's why the sand is so damn necessary. You get no traded glass nor sand so if it's not on-site, no glass items industry. And if you have a dwarf who wants glass for his possessed mood well, then trouble ensues.