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[cephalo]

I've been looking for an embark point, and it seems that very many squares show the neighbor races and 'No Trade' written in yellow. I'm trying to figure out what would prevent trade, and scrolling around it seems completely random. Has anyone figured out why so much of the map wouldn't allow trade?

[Max White]

Well I'm relatively sure that trade comes from real civilizations now, not just spwaned off the side of the map, so you would need to embark close enough for a trade route.

[Dakk]

And even then there's a chance they won't come on the first year. On my fort's first year only the dwarven one came, the human one only showed up later, and no sign of elves yet, but thats probably because my civ is at war with them.

[alway]

My fort has been visited by elves and dwarves, but no humans. So ya, you won't be getting some of them often it seems.

[Pheonix]

Its subtle changes like these that make games like DF never go stale between releases 

[cephalo]

Well I'm relatively sure that trade comes from real civilizations now, not just spwaned off the side of the map, so you would need to embark close enough for a trade route.

I don't think so. I'm getting lot's of no trade indicators even very close to my home civilization. Occasionally only one of the races will trade, but usually when there's no trade, there is no trade with either dwarves, elves or humans. It seems about 50/50 ratio between squares that allow all trade and squares that allow none. It seems that there might be some barrier that I can't see from teh embark screen.

[cephalo]

I found one square that will change the trade status depending on where I put the 4x4 map on the highest detail level. The whole map square is just woodland and savannah, nothing I can see would prevent movement.

[Nexii Malthus]

Check the different variables, what about height? That might be a big factor

[Hobbie]

I'm having a similar issue. Good mountains, evil forest... move a screen away, same biomes, no problems with trading. T_T

[SirPenguin]

Keep in mind that as you scroll across the map the default dwarven civilization you are embarking with changes. It may be that whatever civ you are and the civ with "No Trade" don't have a trading agreement. I've never heard of that so it's probably new to this version.

[Chrispy]

I've gotten 'No-trade' *right* beside a eleven settlement, but was terribly far from the humans. I think it has something to do with the combined distance between all possible traders, and if you are above that, no trade...

[Max White]

Well if the city of question was taken over by another civilisation, and you were still out of range of there capital, then yes it would say "No trade" from the city.