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[Fleeb]

So I must've messed something up in my tinkering. I'm running orcs as a custom race (replacing dwarves in some areas). Caravans from my own civ are stocked as they should be, but human and elf caravans are empty. Any idea what may cause this?

[MyBeardIsOnFire]

I'm not really sure what can cause this, but nobody else seems to be replying so... oh well.
I think it's one of two things: either your other civilizations have no items, or they have no access to materials to make those items.
Surely, looking at your error.log after running the game will shed more light on cases like this one.

[etgfrog]

did you recheck the elf and human civs that they still have thier normal item preferences?

example this being the default entity for elfs
[ENTITY:FOREST]
   [FOREST_SETTLEMENTS]
   [CREATURE:ELF]
   [TRANSLATION:ELF]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_SHORT]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SPEAR]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_BOW]
      [AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_ARROWS]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_LONG]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_PLATEMAIL]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_CHAINMAIL]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_COAT:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_SHIRT:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_CLOAK:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_TUNIC:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_TOGA:UNCOMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_CAPE:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_VEST:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_DRESS:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_ROBE:COMMON]
   [HELM:ITEM_HELM_HELM:COMMON]
   [HELM:ITEM_HELM_CAP:COMMON]
   [HELM:ITEM_HELM_HOOD:COMMON]
   [HELM:ITEM_HELM_TURBAN:UNCOMMON]
   [HELM:ITEM_HELM_VEIL_HEAD:UNCOMMON]
   [HELM:ITEM_HELM_SCARF_HEAD:UNCOMMON]
   [GLOVES:ITEM_GLOVES_GAUNTLETS:COMMON]
   [GLOVES:ITEM_GLOVES_GLOVES:COMMON]
   [GLOVES:ITEM_GLOVES_MITTENS:COMMON]
   [SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_SHOES:COMMON]
   [SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_BOOTS:COMMON]
   [SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_BOOTS_LOW:COMMON]
   [SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_SANDAL:COMMON]
   [SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_CHAUSSE:UNCOMMON]
   [SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_SOCKS:COMMON]
   [PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_PANTS:COMMON]
   [PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_GREAVES:COMMON]
   [PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_LEGGINGS:COMMON]
   [PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_LOINCLOTH:COMMON]
   [PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_THONG:UNCOMMON]
   [PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_SKIRT:COMMON]
   [PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_SKIRT_SHORT:COMMON]
   [PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_SKIRT_LONG:COMMON]
   [PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_BRAIES:UNCOMMON]
   [SHIELD:ITEM_SHIELD_SHIELD]
   [SHIELD:ITEM_SHIELD_BUCKLER]
   [TOY:ITEM_TOY_PUZZLEBOX]
   [TOY:ITEM_TOY_BOAT]
   [INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_FLUTE]
   [INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_HARP]
   [INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_PICCOLO]
   [AMBUSHER]
   [CLOTHING]
   [CURRENCY:COPPER:1]
   [CURRENCY:SILVER:5]
   [CURRENCY:GOLD:15]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:ALL:NATURE]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:ALL:FLOWERY]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL :DOMESTIC]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:SUBORDINATE]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:EVIL]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:UNTOWARD]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:NEGATIVE]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:UGLY]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:NEGATOR]
   [WOOD_PREF]
   [OUTDOOR_FARMING]
   [COMMON_DOMESTIC_PACK]

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[ January 07, 2008: Message edited by: etgfrog ]

[Keilden]

When you generate a world let only the dwarfs have the cin control tag. Then after the world is generated you can add it to your orcs.

[Fleeb]

Thanks for the replies! I think the problem was with versions, I had started the fortress on _33f, and then just copied over to _33g. Creating a new world seems to have fixed the problem.

quote: When you generate a world let only the dwarfs have the cin control tag. Then after the world is generated you can add it to your orcs.

Hmm, never tried that... I always generate a world with both orcs and dwarves having the civ tag and never had a problem.

Anyway, thanks again!