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TheSilverHammer

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Whats the point of wealth?
« on: December 24, 2007, 03:09:00 pm »

I quickly got nearly master level iron armor and weapons.   No one seems to sell steel, let alone adamatium.   Now I got like 10k silver coins and I do not know what to do with it.   Is there a bank?  Can you stash it safely somewhere?  Is there some phat lewts merchants I have not found?
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AlanL

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Re: Whats the point of wealth?
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2007, 03:19:00 pm »

In DF, coins can be compared to shurikens. Other than that, you could make yourself a home in fortress mode, then use it in adventure mode as a stashing point. I don't think containers get moved.
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TheSilverHammer

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Re: Whats the point of wealth?
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2007, 03:52:00 pm »

But you can't make a fortress that you do not abandon and also do adventure mode, right?

Also, how the hell do you learn to swim?  Any water that can give skill causes me to drown and there is never a way out.  It seems like every 'lake' in this game is a pit, with no slopes to get out of.  I took novice swimmign skill, but there is nothing I can get into that will not kill me.

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Re: Whats the point of wealth?
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2007, 03:58:00 pm »

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Originally posted by AlanL:
<STRONG>In DF, coins can be compared to shurikens.</STRONG>

You know, just yesterday I found some stacks of coins in my old fortress. I tried to distribute my good fortune among the local townsfolk, but it seemed to cause grievous wounds all around instead.

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Re: Whats the point of wealth?
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2007, 06:07:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by TheSilverHammer:
<STRONG>But you can't make a fortress that you do not abandon and also do adventure mode, right?

Also, how the hell do you learn to swim?  Any water that can give skill causes me to drown and there is never a way out.  It seems like every 'lake' in this game is a pit, with no slopes to get out of.  I took novice swimmign skill, but there is nothing I can get into that will not kill me.</STRONG>


True, but you can "retire" your adventurer in a town (you can do this by pressing escape... the option should be there) and then start up your humble home in dwarf mode (or not so humble... you can make a personal castle out of gold if you want)

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Re: Whats the point of wealth?
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2007, 06:48:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by TheSilverHammer:
<STRONG>Also, how the hell do you learn to swim?  Any water that can give skill causes me to drown and there is never a way out.  It seems like every 'lake' in this game is a pit, with no slopes to get out of.  I took novice swimmign skill, but there is nothing I can get into that will not kill me.</STRONG>

I think I read somewhere that you need to find water that is no more than 4/7 deep. Moving around in such water will gain you some more swimming skill. When your swimming skill is good enough, you won't drown. But I guess you still need to use 'shift'+'arrow' to move out of any waterpits...

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TheSilverHammer

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Re: Whats the point of wealth?
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2007, 08:36:00 pm »

The problem is that there is no naturally occurring water that is 4/7 deep and the terrain engine doesn't do beaches.  Pretty much no one should ever drown by stepping into first tile of a water square because you should be able to step right out.   All ponds and lakes in this game are pits and have no sloped edges, and you are trapped if you can't swim.

I am trying to locate my last fortress where a bronze colossus killed it.   I want to see if it is still there.   After that, if I have the patience, I am done with adventure mode.   There isn't any point to it and those missions are hard for the wrong reasons.   They are hard because you can spend like 2 hours wandering around in an area and still not find 'a cave' or the boss guy.   Even when you do, you either wax him or you don't.   They don't even have special loot that you can't get any other way.

About the only thing I learned, if this DOES translate to fortress mode, is that Ill have my dwarfs be wrestlers before they train to be anything else, although I am not sure that would have helped much with the colossus who waxed my fort.   8 AxeDwarves and 10 marksdwarves (4 of which were elite) were useless.  Maybe wrestling will help.   That is why I want to find the bronze dude and see how my adventurer handles him.   Currently nothing is a challenge to him although those spiders 'cheated' so he can't fight back.   Anything else I pound to dust with ease.

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Re: Whats the point of wealth?
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2007, 08:40:00 pm »

If I can't find my old fort, what is a good way to end my guy's adventure?  I was thinking about going from town to town and butchering everyone.   Does that have any lasting effect, like a town will go away or even goblin strongholds will vanish?

[ December 24, 2007: Message edited by: TheSilverHammer ]

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« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2007, 07:34:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by TheSilverHammer:
<STRONG>If I can't find my old fort, what is a good way to end my guy's adventure?  I was thinking about going from town to town and butchering everyone.   Does that have any lasting effect, like a town will go away or even goblin strongholds will vanish?

[ December 24, 2007: Message edited by: TheSilverHammer ]</STRONG>


I'm not sure about towns, but if you attack a evil fort (kobold/gobbo) then a party of the creatures usually appears on the travel map, which is probably fleeing dudes. But the entire fort still always has some unless you slay every stinking guy in there.

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Re: Whats the point of wealth?
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2007, 08:13:00 pm »

for swimming, I think that the small rivers(streams) have gently sloped edges.  When you press shift+direction to move into the water if the option "move to water east and below" is available then you can get back out.  But if the only option is "move to empty space", then you can't get out.
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Re: Whats the point of wealth?
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2007, 09:03:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by TheSilverHammer:
<STRONG>If I can't find my old fort, what is a good way to end my guy's adventure?  I was thinking about going from town to town and butchering everyone.   Does that have any lasting effect, like a town will go away or even goblin strongholds will vanish?

[ December 24, 2007: Message edited by: TheSilverHammer ]</STRONG>


I think you should just retire him. Go to any town-square, and just hit the escape key. Your character will be ready for play whenever you like afterwards with all his (held) belongings. Supposing he doesn't die from an outside source.

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Re: Whats the point of wealth?
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2007, 09:31:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Anti-Paragon:
<STRONG>

I think you should just retire him. Go to any town-square, and just hit the escape key. Your character will be ready for play whenever you like afterwards with all his (held) belongings. Supposing he doesn't die from an outside source.</STRONG>



Such as a group of dwarves coming into his town and making a huge tunnel below the city, then collapsing it.

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Re: Whats the point of wealth?
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2007, 11:05:00 pm »

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Such as a group of dwarves coming into his town and making a huge tunnel below the city, then collapsing it.</STRONG>

I fear that in real life.

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