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ryno

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Petition Zone + Poll Booth objects
« on: February 16, 2023, 05:15:57 pm »

anytime the people ask me to organize something i just screenshot it and keep it as a PNG on my desktop so i can remember. if its in a menu somewhere LMK but i had an idea for a new type of zone that is characterized by poll booths that people must access before creating these petitions, so i can click on these zones to view the list of demands. various actions could be integrated into this zone such as the election of mayors and some other possible things.

i also recently heard there was interest in a new "nursery" zone, which i support as well. i would like for it to be characterized by cradles.

these appeal to my interest in base-building, for which i would also like to see more furniture objects in general, such as placeable clocks/calendars (required in order to view specific date?), globes/maps (required in order to access world map?)
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jecowa

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Re: Petition Zone + Poll Booth objects
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2023, 07:57:25 pm »

What functions would a nursery have? Currently mothers carry around their infants. Maybe once the fortress gets large enough, they’ll demand a nursery to watch their babies while they work?

Polling booths sound interesting. Would the player have any way to influence elections? Rigging elections might be better for everyone than arranging for unfortunate accidents.
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Shonai_Dweller

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Re: Petition Zone + Poll Booth objects
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2023, 02:29:25 am »

What functions would a nursery have? Currently mothers carry around their infants. Maybe once the fortress gets large enough, they’ll demand a nursery to watch their babies while they work?

Polling booths sound interesting. Would the player have any way to influence elections? Rigging elections might be better for everyone than arranging for unfortunate accidents.
Some mother's work involves holding back the savage hordes of goblin invaders. And, sure, it's kinda funny seeing the axelord dealing death in one hand and clutching her newborn in the other, but it does get rather grim quite quickly
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Criperum

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Re: Petition Zone + Poll Booth objects
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2023, 05:31:43 am »

New petition zone seems too much from my POV. But this brought an idea of how to "improve" petitions. Once a group of dwarves create a petition they gather at one of meeting areas and wait until you make a decision. If you decline or ignore it, they go back to work with unhappy thoughts
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Re: Petition Zone + Poll Booth objects
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2023, 10:27:25 am »

Hmmm... don't we already have petition zones of a sort?  Offices are where petitions are already presented, no?  Are there any petitions that happen right now in the game that do not involve going to an office?  Perhaps the biggest improvement to petitions right now would be the book keeper or mayor or whoever to make records of petitions and these being (re)viewable. 

That said, this discussion so far makes me want to see more depth to petitions, or, actually, social association between dwarves.  I know this should be its own suggestion, but I think it would be cool if dwarves from within the fort were able to form social groups spontaneously on the basis of common demands or affinities.  Individuals and these groups within the fort would be able to make petitions/demands of the powers that be in a fort, not just nobles and other individuals/groups that are hard coded to be able to right now.  It could form the basis of some cool emergent gameplay where factions could form in ones own fort without it having to be based on some hard-coded things like guilds or religion (not to throw shade on guilds or religion in the game!).  In a situation like that, I think dedicated petition zones could make sense, especially if there was more freedom for the player in how to structure society and political-related stuff in the game.   In any case, though I think this should still be able to happen at meeting areas and offices as part of their function.

With regard to nurseries, I think they do make sense to have, especially if parenting-related labor and baby behavior is ever fleshed out more (which I am all for...).  Have it function like a pasture zone.  Even as things are now, it might be nice to have the choice of having a place to put children to help keep them from danger.  In the interest of verisimilitude and fun, though, it would be ideal to have it where it would require the actions of caretakers to keep the children in the area, as children are prone to wandering off unsupervised and get into all sorts of trouble (in fact, tame animal behavior in pastures should be this way too). :) 
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ryno

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Re: Petition Zone + Poll Booth objects
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2023, 09:29:55 pm »

Hmmm... don't we already have petition zones of a sort?  Offices are where petitions are already presented, no?  Are there any petitions that happen right now in the game that do not involve going to an office?

i didn't know dwarves visit offices in order to create petitions, AFAIK there's no "go-to" button for the alert. i just like the idea of poll booths because i would love if any possible excuse was used to introduce new types of furniture so that places can look more lived-in
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