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ChupaNahBrah

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Claiming restricted items?
« on: July 24, 2022, 07:29:36 pm »

I reclaimed a fort and there are a lot of items that got left behind that are red in the stocks screen. The wiki says these items are restricted (usually because they are owned by traders). Is there any way to claim these items so I can use them? there's some good gear and a couple artifacts that I can't display. I use LNP so I have access to DFhack if necessary.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2022, 07:32:29 pm by ChupaNahBrah »
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Re: Claiming restricted items?
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2022, 01:07:47 am »

No need for extra tools. Those items are 'forbidden' meaning your dwarves won't interact with them. Most enemy or merchant gear is forbidden by default and the reclaimed fortresses are riddled with forbidden gear.

For specific items, you can loo'k' at the item and press 'f'orbid to claim it. You'll see {these} disappear from the outside of the name, which means its no longer forbidden.

You can also designate large areas of items/workshops with 'd', 'b', 'c'laim.

I'll warn you that your dwarves can take an entire year or more to carry all the clothing to stockpiles, so be a bit careful with it. You have no need to produce anything for a while, except food and drink, and can trade off goods by the boatload.

DFHack can be useful for very quickly moving those items around, if you need it.

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Re: Claiming restricted items?
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2022, 07:27:19 am »

...additionally, via the Stocks screen[1] you can tag/untag with all the usual suspects (Forbidden, Hidden, Meltable... all as apply ) either en-mass (for collapsed listings) or individually (expanded).  Though you may not necessarily know which of a million random stones (e.g.) you're operating on, it is very useful when it doesn't matter and/or you would otherwise need to track them all down by location. Or if defined location(s) isn't the key selection criteria.

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...but whether this is useful for OP's unForbidding requirement... Obviously depends upon the stage of your Reclaim project. Just an additional note.

[1] You may need your Bookkeeper working enough, first, of course.
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Re: Claiming restricted items?
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2022, 07:37:46 am »

No need for extra tools. Those items are 'forbidden' meaning your dwarves won't interact with them. Most enemy or merchant gear is forbidden by default and the reclaimed fortresses are riddled with forbidden gear.

For specific items, you can loo'k' at the item and press 'f'orbid to claim it. You'll see {these} disappear from the outside of the name, which means its no longer forbidden.

You can also designate large areas of items/workshops with 'd', 'b', 'c'laim.

I'll warn you that your dwarves can take an entire year or more to carry all the clothing to stockpiles, so be a bit careful with it. You have no need to produce anything for a while, except food and drink, and can trade off goods by the boatload.

DFHack can be useful for very quickly moving those items around, if you need it.

I should have been more specific with all the info i found and what I've already tried. These items are not forbidden, they are restricted. they have () around them, not {}. according to the wiki this means they were not produced in my fort. They were forbidden when i first got here but I unforbid them and claimed all of them but no change. It doesn't seem like my dwarves will even melt them. I've had metal armor, bolts, and weapons sitting in the bottom of the fortress for years.

This is what it looks like in the stocks screen: (Restriced Item)
As opposed to: {Forbidden Item}

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Stocks#Item_Categories (relevant wiki page. scroll down to the inventory section to see what I'm referencing)
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Re: Claiming restricted items?
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2022, 07:53:25 am »

Normally, "foreign-owned" items (i.e. equipment worn by visitors/invaders or items brought by traders) will lose their ownership information once the owner dies, but I guess that didn't happen during the Abandon/Reclaim.

From what I recall, the only useful thing you can do with such items is to Dump them, ideally onto an atom-smasher.

Note that these are distinct from "imported" items (also in parentheses, but grey instead of red) or "stolen" items (actively Seized from a caravan), both of which can still be used for whatever you want.
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Re: Claiming restricted items?
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2022, 07:58:39 am »

Normally, "foreign-owned" items (i.e. equipment worn by visitors/invaders or items brought by traders) will lose their ownership information once the owner dies, but I guess that didn't happen during the Abandon/Reclaim.

From what I recall, the only useful thing you can do with such items is to Dump them, ideally onto an atom-smasher.

Note that these are distinct from "imported" items (also in parentheses, but grey instead of red) or "stolen" items (actively Seized from a caravan), both of which can still be used for whatever you want.

Thanks for the insight. There's really no way to clear their ownership? would cleanowned in dfhack work? I've been avoiding it because i didn't want to strip all the other items from my dwarves
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