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[Gwahli]

If someone dodges a projectile or a trap, is there any bias in the possible direction?
Are all eight directions equal or are cardinals preferred over diagonals?
Does it make any difference if the dodger is moving before instead of standing still?

[DoubleG]

In practise it seems that if there's a massive drop into magma or some spikes, or any other deadly obstacle, your dwarfs will dodge onto THAT tile. 9 times out of ten.

[Gwahli]

I rather try to make gobbos dodge and was pondering the http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Trap_design#Dodge_Me_Trap.
If all eight directions are equal, then the "simple" =

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........In both cases two of the eight directions provide save landing and six go into the pit.

[DoubleG]

I once had a problem with dwarfs dodging off an edge into a volcano, because of falling items. Pretty much all the directions they could dodge in were volcano death tiles, with a wall on the other side. I did notice they tended to dodge mostly directly to the side, so diagonals are PROBABLY not as likely for dodges. I think the four cardinal directions are more likely to be dodged into, unless they are unavailable. So the advanced option MAY be a better design.

[Fleeting Frames]

@Gwahli: Adanced uses diagonals because they take 41% longer to move diagonally, giving more attacks for slower creatures and allowing hitting of faster ones.

a particularly quick goblin has been known to run across a field of weapon traps, not getting hit once.

[Gwahli]

With the "dodge me" trap they are not supposed to be hit. They are meant to dodge into the pit. You use low quality mechanisms so the traps are easy to dodge even.
Can a fast runner simply avoid all traps without even having to dodge?

[Fleeting Frames]

Yes. Weapon traps take time to fire, so a Peregrine falcon (moves at 1 tile tick at fastest) is harder to hit than a snail man.