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towerdude

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Adventurer made sites
« on: October 02, 2020, 11:37:40 am »

Hello, haven't been here in five years, what's up guys?  ;)

My question:

Are adventurer made sites evolve after retirement in self-made meadhalls?

Like births, marriages, children, trade, wars, new buildings, new weapons (for example if all the inhabitants are adventurers, because the world went extinct, but the civilization names still exist).

The plan is to manually populate civs with adventurers, so their children can repopulate the world.

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Re: Adventurer made sites
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2020, 03:38:26 pm »

Most of that is working in fortress mode, but not in adventure mode. Sites do not really change after being abandoned but their inhabitants will. If you did build a tavern, it should be functional. 
Time however passes terribly slowly in adventure mode, so I'm not sure if you will see many people move in or out. for any meaningfull progress of time you need to be in fortress mode.

On top of that, I think adventurers are currently missing some tags that they would need to get married and have children, so even if you'd move to fortress mode they would not have children (I'm not sure if you can fix that with dfhack)
You can still retire adventurers and they may stay at the site, but sometimes they will move on and might even take important positions elsewhere.

Recruited adventure companions however will happily get married to eachother, so that might work, it at least happened several times in the museum III adventure game. Getting them to have kids might take a lot of patience though.
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Re: Adventurer made sites
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2020, 03:39:57 pm »

Thanks a lot!
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Re: Adventurer made sites
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2020, 07:07:22 am »

Adventurer's sites can also attract others - usually just stray animals, but occasionally a new resident. So, it's possible - with enough adventuring recruits and time.

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Re: Adventurer made sites
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2020, 12:34:19 pm »

Dfhack does have a command to fix sterility of a unit, so you can make your adventurers able to marry/have children.
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Re: Adventurer made sites
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2020, 04:42:51 pm »

Thanks guys.  ;D Everything is looking good. I just need to flesh out the story now! Can you tell me if adventurer made sites can turn into fully working towns with everything? Farmers, smithies, shops, inns with rooms? Or must I build them and designate everything by hand.  Or building generation stops after map generation?
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Re: Adventurer made sites
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2020, 05:38:54 pm »

Whatever site you leave will look exactly like that even if you come back in 200 years. Items and residents are the only things that'll change.

But, while you're in fortress mode controlling a different site, the game will treat it like any other site and sort of spoof food production, etc - even if the site doesn't have any workshops.

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Re: Adventurer made sites
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2020, 08:49:45 am »

Because I tried to dfhack my adventurers into relationships, I can safely say it's not possible. Adventurers are not assexual, instead they don't have a sexuality (if it makes sense) so fix-ster has nothing to change. The only way to have your characters having children is to have a female adventurer and do the ol' virgin birth trick and dfhack a baby directly into her.

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Re: Adventurer made sites
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2020, 01:21:47 am »

What if create site by outsider and (by DFhack) unretire this site? What reactions will be available and what ethics will work?
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Re: Adventurer made sites
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2020, 07:28:33 pm »

well if you didn't claim the site in general when making it as being an outsider will lock you out of that which also means you can't retire in the site until there's a civ in there.

if you just unretire an empty site that has no civ and a bunch of residents you probably get a blank fort that will auto abandon at worst, and if you put in the work in the site to have any units working there.

the big deal with adventurers raising a family is they kind-of don't have personalities that have interests that would make them relatable so you end up with beings that likes nothing and can't love folks outside of being really good friends, and this was what happen back when they didn't have a preference, so now you gotta do more work to get them on the level of a fort mode dwarf, or get them married already and mess with their preference, or gene splice empreg someone and/or the adventurer, or just gui/gm-editor mess with the historical figure's family data to add the adventurer into it.

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