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Libash_Thunderhead

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Forbidden items?
« on: May 01, 2019, 08:56:54 pm »

Occasionally, there are forbidden items on the ground and I don't know why.
Any idea?
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Carfter

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Re: Forbidden items?
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2019, 09:18:53 pm »

There's some things that i can think of that can warrant this:
  • Are they tattered clothing? (normally signified by "xx" on either side of the item name)
  • Or have you just finished battling a siege and there's forbidden armor on the ground?
Also i would recommend checking in your options if certain items automatically get forbidden. Is it anything besides these?
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Libash_Thunderhead

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Re: Forbidden items?
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2019, 12:06:01 am »

Oh, just some random items. Most of them are clothes, sometimes a barrel. I know about siege and autodump, but no, they are items on random places, it looks like somebody dropped them while they are hauling.
I recall this happens before, but I never gave that too much thought.
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Re: Forbidden items?
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2019, 12:14:47 am »

Check your refuse standing orders and try to be mindful of forbidding things via the z screen. If you forbid something being hauled it gets dropped.
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Libash_Thunderhead

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Re: Forbidden items?
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2019, 01:40:48 am »

What does refuse standing order have to do with it? I don't understand.
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PatrikLundell

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Re: Forbidden items?
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2019, 04:02:13 am »

There's recently been a thread about forbidden rotting food that's thought to have been "produced" by tantruming. If that's a correct analysis, it might be possible the items where in the process of being hauled when the hauler snapped and started a tantrum.

It can also be noted that forbidding hauled items does not cause the morons to drop items hauled to a location that's outside of a newly created burrow: instead, they'll spam cancellations until you give up and remove the burrow restriction (civilian alert burrows work differently: the morons instead lug that precious boulder back inside the burrow before dropping it).
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Re: Forbidden items?
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2019, 07:41:05 am »

I was mistaken, it is under forbid: Check if you aren't forbidding your own dead items.

I may have missed the thread Patrick mentioned, if it is like that it could explain this neatly.
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Re: Forbidden items?
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2019, 12:19:06 pm »

When tantrum dwarfs throw things, those items become forbidden. None of the 'o' 'F' settings seem to change this.

Here is a jeweler who started his tantrum by throwing goat meat (it looks like he hauling the goat meat to a barrel) at a dwarf who was moving a yak cow, then the jeweler switched to attacking the yak until it died. The goat meat is marked as forbidden in the log but all my settings for 'o' 'F' are on "Claim".
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Libash_Thunderhead

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Re: Forbidden items?
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2019, 06:45:23 pm »

Thanks guys. Now it makes sense. Maybe some dwarves went bonkers some years ago, until I began to expel over-stressed dwarves regularly.
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