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[pamelrabo]

Ok, so I've got this young (150year old) world, with 3 major dwarven civs.
I chose blindly and then took a dive in Legends Viewer to have a peek on my civ.

Turns out my civ has had only 2 queens. The first one and the current one, her daughter. The former queen had a husband and 9 children but a bronze colossus attacked the capital and struck her, her husband, 6 of her children and a bunch more of people, destroying the fortress. So, succession doubts.

The current queen inherited the crown, jumping over her older male brother. Maybe I played a bit too much Crusader Kings but, ¿What are the succesion laws in DF? ¿Do they change from civ to civ? ¿Is my civ a matrilineal despotic rule, and female members of the dinasty come before male heirs? ¿Or is it just random and I'm over-reading this?

Also, the queen is married to a super-duper-master weaponsmith female dwarf. So, no children at all. ¿What will happen if the queen dies? ¿Will her brother get the throne, her spouse, or each baron is a candidate? ¿Is there some form of election if the main royal bloodline dies?

Finally. I want to roleplay a revenge fort to hunt for Amak, the Bronze Colossus. ¿What is my best stretegy here? ¿Look for clues as an adventurer and then set up a fort near the latest known location of the Colossus? ¿Just build a super-wealthy place and wait for him to come crash the party? ¿Reclaim the lost capital (now a cyclops lives there) to see if he wants an encore?

This lesbian queen - no children at all - business just made me think: ¿What happens with orphan kids? Death by horrible monster is almost 'natural death' in DF. Even if they can't divorce or marry widowers, ¿do dwarves adopt / foster / take care of orphan babies and children?

[blister_pack]

Finally. I want to roleplay a revenge fort to hunt for Amak, the Bronze Colossus. ¿What is my best stretegy here? ¿Look for clues as an adventurer and then set up a fort near the latest known location of the Colossus? ¿Just build a super-wealthy place and wait for him to come crash the party? ¿Reclaim the lost capital (now a cyclops lives there) to see if he wants an encore?

afaik you can embark directly on the shrine. when an adventurer discovers info about the collosus, the shrine will even be visible on the embark screen, so you should have no problem here. the colossus will not be labeled as 'uninvited guest' - it will be a 'current resident' instead, so less agressive. good luck!

[Cathar]

In no particular order :

• Same situation happened to me, almost exactly. Damn bronze colossi always ruining our good civilizations
• Successions laws are, un human and dwarven kingdoms, mendate that the sons&daughters are favorized for the succession and have to decide among themselves. This is very different in elven kingdoms (people elect druid, druid chose queen, queen chose princess) If none is applicable, anyone is elligible, but social skills are very important in both cases.
• Sexuality and gender are totally irrelevant except in elven kingdoms where there only female leaders.
• The way I killed my own murderous bronze colossus is by trapping it in a cage, tie it to a pole and have a goblin invasion crush itself against it. Soloing bronze colossi is usually ill advised, if you really want to, bring steel weapons. He'll show up at some point
• Orphan kids are taken care of by the community, as communities in DF are... some kind of a mix between tribal collectivism and socialist utopia. People do not adopt. Babies cannnot feed themselves but people with "healthcare" enabled will periodically check on them

Hope it answers your questions

[UselessMcMiner]

Also if you found a shrine in adventure mode I think you can send a squad to go raid the site. I might have to do some more !!SCIENCE!! to figure it out

[sketchesofpayne]

One of my human civs in my current world; the 'law-giver' died of old age in the capitol.  Rulership passed to a human barmaid living in an elf town whose legends profile includes nothing but going to that town and working in the tavern.

My dwarf nations have frequent breaks in lineage and the kingship passes to a seemingly random dwarf.  Often something like a fishery worker in a hillocks with no family tree to speak of.

[pamelrabo]

@cathar: Oh, wow, thanks for the info. So, kind of intra-dinasty consensus elective, and totally bananas if there's no bloodline heirs. Yeah, quite DF, now that I think of it.

Now I feel a bit sad for all those orphan kids. But I guess the 'adopt' code that rules the pet adoption would be hell to translate to historical figures, and it makes sense the clan takes care of the kids in a world where there are no posessions to inherit (save for maybe artifacts).

I'll try to find the colossus in Adventure mode and plant a fort as near as possible, then send the troops as @UselessMcMiner suggested. For Maximum Roleplaying it would be nice if the Queen's spouse forged a masterful set of armor and weapons to avenge her wife's family, but I doubt you can get it, unless she moves to your place in fort mode. Wonder if I can chat with them and get some extra bits of story, though.

¡You're a big help, people!

[UselessMcMiner]

If you get enough fame you might be able to bring her wife on the quest with you.

[Saiko Kila]

Now I feel a bit sad for all those orphan kids. But I guess the 'adopt' code that rules the pet adoption would be hell to translate to historical figures, and it makes sense the clan takes care of the kids in a world where there are no posessions to inherit (save for maybe artifacts).

Orphaned kids inherit their parent's clothes. When one parent still lives, he or she is the inheritor, but if dies, then the kid inherits all.

It may be different if there is a tomb to the parent: the dwarves with personal tomb do not lose ownership of their clothes normally, instead the clothes are brought to the tomb, where every empty floor tile is regarded as a kind of stockpile for dead dwarf's things. So only selfish dwarves have tombs!

Note that by "clothes" I mean all their personal possessions, which usually are only clothes (including these in the cabinets, so there may be lots of them). But some dwarves pick up and claim other things occasionally, for example coins. These will also be inherited by their spouse or children.

[pamelrabo]

Oh, wait, so, ¿I can assign a tomb for a (say) Fallen Hero and all the stuff, legendary weapons and armor he had when dying, etc will be kept there? ¿Or military stuff is not 'owned' until gets a name or someone gets attached to a certain piece of armor/weapon?

I thought of a pedestal with the weapon of choice of a beloved dead hero for all to remember was a great idea, but then, when you've got 17 silver maces, investigating which one was 'the one' is a pain. Now I have to investigate this **mumble mumble**