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[Leonidas]

I'm doing some mass pitting of creatures into an atom smasher. I learned the hard way that a bridge coming down will deconstruct on a creature over 1.2 million in size. Then I decided to smash some creatures halfway during a round of pitting. When I went to raise it some creatures had accumulated on top of the bridge, and it wouldn't budge. None of the creatures on top of the bridge were over 1.2 million, but added together they were over that limit.

The wiki says that the 1.2 million limit is not cumulative, but that's not what I'm seeing. Before I edit the wiki, could someone verify this, or weigh in with other possible explanations?

Edit: Cancel this. I can't reproduce it. There must have been an elephant hiding in there the first time.
Edit2: I caught it! Here's the save. This time they smashed the bridge on the way down. Pull the lever on z132. Nothing in that room is anywhere close to 1.2 million, yet the bridge breaks.
Edit3: It's the Giant Mosquito Corpse. The wiki data lists it at 200,000. That must be wrong, or maybe the size changed when it became a corpse.
Edit4: One more mystery: If you remove the Giant Mosquito Corpse and squash the rest, you should get reports of masterworks being destroyed. Does that make sense to anyone?

[Immortal-D]

Edit: Cancel this. I can't reproduce it. There must have been an elephant hiding in there the first time.

I love that this is a routine part of !SCIENCE! in Dwarf Fortress.  Glad you got it figured out.

[fishboyliam]

I love that this is a routine part of !SCIENCE! in Dwarf Fortress.  Glad you got it figured out.

Nah, this is just a routine part of science in general.

[Saiko Kila]

I just wanted to say that giant insects (like flies and mosquitoes) weight often about 2.5 tonnes (I usually see somewhere between 2 - 3 t, but most about 2.5). In comparison, giant birds like sparrows (or hamsters or other critters) weight ~200-250 kg or ten times less. It was always amusing to me.

Now, according to RAWs, they both should weigh about 200 kg adults.
Giant insect = 1 * 200007.00 = 200 k (first is the size of normal sized adult, second is the multiplier for giant version)
Giant bird = 30 * 6673.67 = 200 k
But as I say, insects I encounter consistently weigh one order of magnitude more. I suppose the problem lies with the algorithm which calculates weight of giant version, when it has to deal with very small input. Maybe the input is wrongly prepared by another algorithm.

(I assume one unit is one gram - in DF it represents one cubic cm, so it's a volume, not mass, but average mass of animal tissue in real life is very close to 1 g/cm^2, so this assumption is reasonable)