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[Fatace]

I am using a chart based of of DFWiki that only shows certain values important to damage with weapons... the first set is Vanilla, 2nd set is the metals in my mod that are useable to make weapons (except 2 that only used as dropped weapons)

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Metal         Value  Density  ImpYld  ImpFrct  ImpEla  ShrYld  ShrFrct  ShrEla   Notes

Adamantine      300    0.200   5000    5000     0       5000    5000     0       Only the Dwarfs know how to forge this material.
Divine metal    300    1.0     1000    2000     0       1000    2000     0 
Steel            30    7.85    1505    2520     940     430     720      215   
Bismuth bronze    6    8.25    602     843      547     172     241      156   
Bronze            5    8.25    602     843      547     172     241      156   
Iron             10    7.85    542     1080     319     155     310      189   
Copper            2    8.93    245     770      175     70      220      145   
Silver           10    10.49   350     595      350     100     170      333   
Platinum         40    21.4    350     700      152     100     200      164     Only available as Artifact Weapons. 
Bone              1    0.50    200     200      100     115     130      100   
Wood              1    0.50    10      10       1000    40      40       1000   
Shell             1    0.50    200     200      100     115     130      100     Only available as Artifact Weapons. 
Leather           1    0.50    10      10       50000   25      25       50000   Material data added for comparison. 
Obsidian          3    2.67    1000    1000     2222    35      35       114     Only available for Stone Weapons. 
Crystal glass    10    2.6     1000    1000     2222    33      33       113     Only available as Trap Components. 
Clear glass       5    2.6     1000    1000     2222    33      33       113     Only available as Trap Components. 
Green glass       2    2.6     1000    1000     2222    33      33       113     Only available as Trap Components.

Added in My Mod:
Sunfire Gold     35    7.85    905     1520     340     440     700      290     Only the Kytsuni know how to forge this material.
Palidium         45    18.4    1350    1700     210     1140    1240     180     Only the Humans know how to forge this material.
Quicksilver      20    7.49    710     1040     280     239     635      250     Only the Saedric know how to forge this material.
Scalion          25    16.9    1750    2800     300     200     420      160     Only the Nagorians know how to forge this material.
Malevolyte      100    1.0     680     930      50      2200    3100     80      Only available by killing Eklion for its "Antlers".
Mythrillium      20    9.35    632.5   1250     260     430     720      205     Only the Etharlu know how to forge this material.
Dragon Steel    200    3.55    3200    4000     310     2600    3500     135     Only the Draconei know how to forge this material.
Arcanium          8    2.14    310     390      108     290     345      125     Only used with Ammo and ranged weps. and other hidden things...
Divine          300    1.0     1000    2000     0       1000    2000     0       Only Obtained through drops... Same as normal divine metals.
Zodiakrius      400    15.0    5500    5500     16      5500    5500     16      Only Obtained through Diety FINALBEASTS  (Ancient weapons)
ArmoklyteBlood 1000    14.0    6000    6000     15      6000    6000     20      Only Obtained through killing a Fragment of Armok. (Legendary weapons)
Hellfire        250    11.2    3200    3400     134     3200    3400     115     Obtainable from Hellferions from the lava caverns.
Catalycium      *50    1.35    936     1450     390     1250    1470     158     Only certain Civs know how to find and forge this material.
Orichalcum       30    12.4    1390.5  2325     225     274     915      185     Only the Zhaahara know how to forge this material.
Echanoriatium    35    8.31    1134    1730     273     792     1366     240     Only the Faexari know how to forge this material.




Sunfiregold, Palidium, Quicksilver, Scalion, Mythrillium, Dragon Steel, Orichalcum and Echanoriatium are all basically other metals + new ingrediants.
Zodiakrius and Armoklyte Blood are dropped as weapons from Finalboss beasts.
Divine is.. the same as normal divine metals but just a copy of it used for itemcorpse drops.
Hellfire is obtained from rare creatures from lava areas. Catalycium was made purely for edge weaponry.

[Fatace]

been 3 days and still no word o_o... unsure if people have never heard of/trust puush links or just unsure on if its balanced... or just remaining silence to tell me  that there is no real way of telling if its balanced... meh

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[Fatace]

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thanks!

[Eric Blank]

Your best bet to test their in-game "balance" is simply to do lots of tests in the arena and play a lot of games with them, and judge them for yourself where they stand.

[Fatace]

Your best bet to test their in-game "balance" is simply to do lots of tests in the arena and play a lot of games with them, and judge them for yourself where they stand.

Yeah thats what I did, mainly based some on blunt damage, others towards edge, and some just inbetween, was just curious on what others think

[SlimeOfSteel]

Why didn't you add Tungsten as a metal?

All kidding aside, the metals seem alright. My guess is that they're late-game metals, so that's why they're so powerful. I haven't actually experimented with modding metals, so sorry if my opinion doesn't help you that much.

Also, if you want my honest opinion, I think you should change the name of Catalycium to Esclicierite (the "esclicier" part is an Old French word, and it's where the modern day word "slice" originated from.) You can keep the name as it is if you'd like, though.

Speaking of which, you mentioned this in your post

Catalycium was made purely for edge weaponry.

If you made a metal that's tailored to edge weapons, how about a metal tailored to blunt and piercing weapons? I've already got the names for you: Collidrite (from the Latin word "collidere", meaning strike together)for the blunt metal, and Forardrite (from the Latin word "forare", meaning pierce) or the piercing weapons.

That's just my idea, I'm not one to tell you how to make a mod.

[Fatace]

I actually just added in Tungsten and titanium just today xD titanium is basically on the same tier as steel, and tungsten on the same tier as iron.

And yeah most of the ones that have a Civ attached to them, are end-game like metals, basically the highest tier or preferred tier, with them mostly requiring multiple regeants to make.

Also I like those name ideas lol, I will keep them in mind if I add anything else close to finishing my mod soon (hopefully)

[Putnam]

I actually just added in Tungsten and titanium just today xD titanium is basically on the same tier as steel, and tungsten on the same tier as iron.

That's kind of the opposite of how it should be:

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[INORGANIC:TITANIUM_PUTNAM]
    [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:METAL_TEMPLATE]
    [STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:titanium]
    [STATE_NAME_ADJ:LIQUID:molten titanium]
    [STATE_NAME_ADJ:GAS:boiling titanium]
    [DISPLAY_COLOR:0:7:1]
    [BUILD_COLOR:0:7:1]
    [MATERIAL_VALUE:10]
    [SPEC_HEAT:520]
    [MELTING_POINT:13002]
    [BOILING_POINT:15916]
    [SOLID_DENSITY:4507]
    [LIQUID_DENSITY:4507]
    [MOLAR_MASS:47867]
[ITEMS_WEAPON][ITEMS_WEAPON_RANGED][ITEMS_AMMO][ITEMS_DIGGER][ITEMS_ARMOR]
[ITEMS_HARD]
[ITEMS_METAL]
[ITEMS_BARRED]
[ITEMS_SCALED]
    [IMPACT_YIELD:385000]
    [IMPACT_FRACTURE:770000]
    [IMPACT_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:350]
    [COMPRESSIVE_YIELD:385000]
    [COMPRESSIVE_FRACTURE:770000]
    [COMPRESSIVE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:350] bulk modulus 110 GPa
    [TENSILE_YIELD:110000]
    [TENSILE_FRACTURE:220000]
    [TENSILE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:94] young's modulus 116 GPa
    [TORSION_YIELD:110000]
    [TORSION_FRACTURE:220000]
    [TORSION_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:94]
    [SHEAR_YIELD:110000]
    [SHEAR_FRACTURE:220000]
    [SHEAR_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:250] shear modulus 44 GPa
    [BENDING_YIELD:110000]
    [BENDING_FRACTURE:220000]
    [BENDING_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:250]
    [MAX_EDGE:10000]
    [STATE_COLOR:ALL:SILVER]

[INORGANIC:TUNGSTEN_PUTNAM]
    [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:METAL_TEMPLATE]
    [STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:tungsten]
    [STATE_NAME_ADJ:LIQUID:molten tungsten]
    [STATE_NAME_ADJ:GAS:boiling tungsten]
    [DISPLAY_COLOR:0:7:1]
    [BUILD_COLOR:0:7:1]
    [MATERIAL_VALUE:30]
    [SPEC_HEAT:132]
    [MELTING_POINT:16159]
    [BOILING_POINT:19999]
    [SOLID_DENSITY:19250]
    [LIQUID_DENSITY:19250]
    [MOLAR_MASS:183840]
[ITEMS_WEAPON][ITEMS_WEAPON_RANGED][ITEMS_AMMO][ITEMS_DIGGER]
[ITEMS_HARD]
[ITEMS_METAL]
[ITEMS_BARRED]
[ITEMS_SCALED]
    [IMPACT_YIELD:1715000]
    [IMPACT_FRACTURE:3430000]
    [IMPACT_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:553]
    [COMPRESSIVE_YIELD:1715000]
    [COMPRESSIVE_FRACTURE:3430000]
    [COMPRESSIVE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:553] bulk modulus 310 GPa
    [TENSILE_YIELD:490000]
    [TENSILE_FRACTURE:980000]
    [TENSILE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:119] young's modulus 411 GPa
    [TORSION_YIELD:490000]
    [TORSION_FRACTURE:980000]
    [TORSION_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:119]
    [SHEAR_YIELD:490000]
    [SHEAR_FRACTURE:980000]
    [SHEAR_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:304] shear modulus 161 GPa
    [BENDING_YIELD:490000]
    [BENDING_FRACTURE:980000]
    [BENDING_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:304]
    [MAX_EDGE:10000]
    [STATE_COLOR:ALL:SILVER]

[Fatace]

Yeah I know, I just changed the stats around to fit it with tiers, plus I like the sound of titanium better than tungsten lol, but density is still the same for both tho, just dif for other stats