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[Ethan741]

In short, I created a hellscape.

The world was held in limbo by a forest titan made entirely out of coral. Naturally, one of my first goals was to go kick its ass. Once that was out of the way, I noticed something peculiar. The world shifted into the Goblin Age -- which was total bullshit by the way.

Turns out, that titan killed a metric arseton of dwarves, yeah, but it also kept killing a bunch of goblins. With the titan gone, the goblins ran wild. They attacked everything.

I noticed something peculiar whenever they start raiding shit. It seems like the game is weighting everything in their favor. In Legends, a handful of goblins wrapped in tinfoil armor can wipe out a city of sixty with no sweat. I tested this further, and found that if I left a fortress filled to the brim with trained soldiers to its own devices, goblins would come and kill everybody like its no biggie in Legends.

So here are my questions:

Why does it seem like skills and equipment don't matter in worldgen/legends battles?
Is there a way to go in and manually stop the goblin menace? I tried making adventurers and used 'em to kill their king thrice over, but it doesn't seem to do much.
I checked their main Dark Fortress, and it has over 5000 trolls. I didn't see that many trolls when I visited and beat their king to death with my fists. Are their really 5000 trolls or is the game messing with me?

I'm using 0.43.04, by the way. It's outdated and buggy like you wouldn't believe, but I can't this rest and update to the newest version until I make this right.

[Shonai_Dweller]

Equipment is a new feature added to worldgen battles in 44.01. With raids, battles outside the fortress need to be a bit more acceptable (has bugs, issues, etc, etc).

[§k]

Be a vampire and get integrated. Drain all the goblin blood one dark pit a time.

[Shonai_Dweller]

By the way, what sort of numbers are attacking your retired fortresses? Doesn't really matter if you have a steel clad death squad guarding the place. 600 goblins and their pets (a few hundred trolls, several hundred beakdogs for example) will mess them up as soon as they get tired.

[Grand Sage]

To answer your other question, Trolls tend to live in the underground of the goblin pits. They usually have big cave-like rooms that i suppose are intended as pastures for them.

[Ethan741]

So I ran another simulation.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

They sent a little more guys than they did last time, but my point remains the same. You're telling me that a fort of 165 strong that's all kitted out with walls, traps, and two squads of legendary soldiers is going to get wiped of the face of the planet by a somewhat smaller invading force, and only manage to kill five of them?

Something's fucky.


On a side note, those adventurer raids I've been doing have been somewhat successful, because the entire invading force was made up of dwarves -- traitorous bastards.

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[snow dwarf]

PTW

[Shonai_Dweller]

Remember worldgen battles are an abstract of ver 1.0 DF. They broke down the drawbridge, sent their trolls through the caves to surprise the dorfs with a rear assault and then some sappers tunneled under the tavern and blew it up. Resulting fire killed most everyone else. A couple of kids holed up in their rooms survived, but were starving so ate each other.

Or maybe your dwarves were just stupid, sallied forth, and were ripped to shreds by an ambush of crossbow goblins.

Loads of reasons a slightly smaller force could outwit a bunch of dumb dwarves. Especially if you're still playing 43.04 before equipment and tactics became a thing.

[PatrikLundell]

And walls and traps have no effect on any battles other than player controlled fortress ones.