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Agriculture/Food production (Goal: specific amount of surplus food/drink stored)

1 (16.7%)

Entertainment (Specific) (Goal: Completion of specific Entertainment structure)

1 (16.7%)

Government (Goal: Completion of specific Government Structure)

2 (33.3%)

Housing (Goal: Available housing for a specific number of dwarves)

0 (0%)

Military (Goal: Completion of specific Military training/barracks structure)

1 (16.7%)

Industry (Specific) (Goal: specific amount of surplus Industry product stored)

0 (0%)

Resource Harvesting (Specific) (Goal: specific amount of surplus raw resources stored)

0 (0%)

Religious (Goal: Completion of specific Religious structure)

0 (0%)

Utilities (Power, Sewer, Water, Roads, ect...) (Goal: Completion of specific Utility structure)

1 (16.7%)

Other (please post below, so it may be added to the next District poll)

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 6

[Timeless Bob]

This is part of the Smallworld Dwarfopoly game, specifically for forum discussion about the purpose, placement and name of new districts. There will be three polls for each new District based on the suggestions submitted in the comments:

1) Purpose:

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Agriculture/Food production
   (Goal: specific amount of surplus food/drink stored)
Entertainment (Specific)
   (Goal: Completion of specific Entertainment structure)
Government
   (Goal: Completion of specific Government Structure)
Housing
   (Goal: Available housing for a specific number of dwarves)
Military
   (Goal: Completion of specific Military training/barracks structure)
Industry (Specific)
   (Goal: specific amount of surplus Industry product stored)
Resource Harvesting (Specific)
   (Goal: specific amount of surplus raw resources stored)
Religious
   (Goal: Completion of specific Religious structure)
Utilities
   (Power, Sewer, Water, Roads, ect...) (Goal: Completion of specific Utility structure)
Other
   (please post below, so it may be added to the next District poll)

Placement:

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Which two embark tiles will be the site for the next district?
(Must have at least one embark tile touching the Goldenbasis or Square of Cathedrals District.)

Top suggestions:
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Name

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 Most popular suggestions: (The District Name must be linked somehow with the results of the "Purpose" poll.
Example: "Goldenbasis" is linked to both the Mead hall and the fact that they will be minting the Golden coins there: the Basis of the City's economy.)
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"Purpose" is the first poll that will be posted, followed by "Placement" then "Name".  The "Purpose" poll will be completed when there are five votes for one choice (one vote per forum member). Using the first five suggestions from the comments below, the "Placement" poll will replace the "Purpose" and be completed with another five votes from forum members who choose to vote ("The Forii"). The "Name" will be the last poll in the cycle, once again using the first five suggestions (so long as the names fulfill requirement number four.) Once the current District is completed and retired, (and any adventure-mode goods and coins transporting has been taken care of), the new District will be embarked upon and a new cycle begun with a new "Purpose" poll be posted for the next District.

District requirements:
1) All Districts will be 1x2 or 2x1 embarks immediately adjacent to a previously built district. 
(You might have noticed that the Goldenbasis District is a 2x2 embark, but it will be the only one, since it is the Palace and Treasure Vault District of the King and the seed for the rest of the Districts of the City.)
2) Each District will be zoned for a particular purpose based off of the most recent "purpose" poll
3) Districts must be able to, at a minimum, have paid off their embark debt and completed their District goal to be eligible for the site to be retired.*
4) Districts must have a name that coincides with their purpose.

*: If a District is facing starvation, it can be retired until the next autumn, where the trade caravan will be able to help get them back on their feet, so they may complete their District goal and pay off their embark fees.

Royal Taxes and Fees:

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The law of the land is that each District is ultimately owned by the King who will rent it to the dwarves who inhabit it with the paltry fee of 500 dorfbucks (About 5% of the total worth of the land.), plus 1 dorfbuck per point of Royal Prestige, per adult individual, per year being charged to the Clan with the highest Prestige living there.

The Outpost Liason is also the Royal Tax Collector, and will travel to the various districts each year, collecting the King's taxes. The merchants and bodyguards who travel with the Royal tax collector are considered part of the retinue, and may be traded with for whatever the District needs, so long as what is traded is the types of items that were agreed upon the year before.  (If the merchants asked for crowns, windows and quivers last year, those are the only items that may be traded for the caravan merchant's goods this year. This applies to all merchants, so purchasing a foreign caravan's otherwise useless trade goods may be beneficial to a District in the long run.)

   Example: King Erolo has 21 Prestige from being the King (+20 Prestige), even though he's the only member of his Clan (+1 Prestige).  The Royal Tax collector comes by a District with twenty individuals living in it and expects them to ante up 500 dorfbucks of Royal Tax, plus 21 dorfbucks per person. (21 times 20 = 420 dorfbucks) for a grand total of 920 dorfbucks in trade goods. The Royal tax is taken before any actual trading with the merchants he has with him is done.  Suppose the tax collector takes an artifact worth 1,200 dorfbucks in lieu of the annual rent:  1,200 divided by 200 (the value of a single gold coin) = 6, so King Erolo's Prestige will increase by +6 to 27 prestige and the taxes he expects from the District the next year will be 500 + (27 x 20) = 1040 dorfbucks.

Embark Debt:

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A basic new embark without any items costs 2,218 prepared meals or drink rations, plus 3 meals and 5 drinks, plus 3 wooden logs (How I came up with this figure).  So each new District will be in debt by this value to the Tun Kab treasury.  Each District will be charged a minimum of 10% of the debt each season until it is repaid (given as a "gift" to the caravan), which will be added to the Kingdom's treasury as payment for new Districts.  (That's 222 prepared meals or drink rations per year, plus the 3 meals, 5 drink rations and three wooden logs.)

"Property Value" (ie: where are the rich neighborhoods and where are the slums?)

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It is the law of the land that Nobles and other Clans may add to the King's rent to line their own pockets, so the cost of rent (and therefore relative affluence) of one District may be more or less based on who lives there.

Each District calculates its base "Property Value" from the cumulative Prestige and Infamy of the individuals living there, multiplied by 10, then divided by the number of individuals who call it home. After that, Districts are affected by how distant they are from the Goldenbasis District (-1 Property Value per map tile away) and the averaged Property values of the adjacent Districts.  (Incomplete Districts with no survivors have no Class, while invaded/conquered Districts may even have negative Class due to the Infamy of the individuals who are staying there. This can REALLY drive down property values and may prompt adventurer quests from the affected Clans in adjacent Districts.)

[(Cumulative Prestige x 10) / number of population] -Tiles from Goldenbasis +/- Average Adjacent District's Property Value)

District Rent

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Each District is composed of 3,268 squares that can be built upon. (excluding the 5-tile border around each edge).  Each square is worth about 3 dorfbucks in rent to the King who takes about 5% of the total as his basic annual rent.  This is important because a Clan's influence is directly proportional to the size of their holdings on a 1 square to 1 point of Prestige ratio.  This means that a Clan with 10 Prestige is able to claim 10 squares of terrain in an embark, to own and control both above and below the surface. (Including anything excavated or grown there). Each Clan is allowed by the King to add 1 dorfbuck per point of prestige to those in the district who have less Prestige than they do as a further rental fee on top of the one required by the King.  This extra rental fee is the income for each Clan, and will be traded to the Treasury in return for 1 gold coin per 200 dorfbucks, (fetched by adventure-mode courier from the Goldenbasis Coin Vault once a District has been completed, but held in credit until then, just in case a tasty Artifact shows up.)  Gold coins may in turn be traded between Districts for any surplus products or other goods stored in those district's warehouses.  (Again by adventure-mode courier.) Clanless peasants get the short end of the stick in this sytem, but that should just push them to move to greener pastures in new Districts where the rent is cheaper and opportunity may knock louder.

Artifacts

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Any Clanless peasant who makes an artifact may choose to trade it to a Clan in its district for its dorfbuck value in gold coins (200 dorfbucks = 1 Gold Coin).  The artifact is considered a "Prestige item" and gains whoever owns it +1 Prestige per gold coin value.  Obviously, if a Clan member is the creator of that artifact, they (and their Clan by proxy) will increase their Prestige by the gold coin value of the artifact automatically.  If no Clan in the District is rich enough in gold coins to purchase the artifact, the Clans from other Districts may make their bids.  If no one has been able to buy the Artifact before the Royal Tax Collector pays a visit, however, he will claim any unclaimed artifacts as the annual District rental payment instead.  (The District's rent is paid for that year only, regardless how valuable the artifacts actually are - sometimes it's good to be the king.) The Prestige of the King will increase by the gold coin value of the artifacts he has claimed (1 Prestige per 200 dorfbucks) and they will be transported to the Goldenbasis District treasure vault by adventure mode courier once that District is completed and retired. 

(If an artifact claimed by the King is ever destroyed or stolen before it can be transported to the treasure vault, those who were responsible will incur that artifact's gold coin value in Infamy instead.)

Feel free to also use this thread to discuss the game in general, Role Play if it suits your fancy, ask questions, or suggest new additions.  While the general purpose of a District is available in the "Purpose" poll, suggestions as to the specifics are also welcome.

[Imic]

Tiles 4 + 5
Temple strict
Should contain themed temples of all the civ's major gods, as well as a cathedral of Armok.
A possible name... If we can, Cathedral Square.

[Sanctume]

I was just doing a wiki on the Kremlin, and how that came to be is interesting with many towers, cathedrals, military HQ type buildings.

First area should be for outdoor barracks for training and mustering the army.

[Imic]

I was just doing a wiki on the Kremlin, and how that came to be is interesting with many towers, cathedrals, military HQ type buildings.

First area should be for outdoor barracks for training and mustering the army.

I will support this, but only if it has at least 1 chapel, and if it becomes a massive complex, possibly making it more than 2x1.
I would personally prefer gothic architecture to the old russian style, but I'm just blabbering on now.

[Sanctume]

I started a similar Bloodline game this past weekend. 

Of the 16x16 local map, I figured break them down to 2x2 embarks, with the center as 4x4. 
I marked each embark from Year 02 to 60+.

Some notes.

1. I made a macro to mark designate dig/channel, split the 2x2 embark into 4 sections of 48x48. 
Each sections is made of

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5 tiles left map edge
2 tiles for dry moat
1 tile for wall
11 tiles for the tower/keep floor space
1 tile for wall.
9 tiles for road between tower/keep
1 tile for wall of 2nd 1 tile for wall.
11 tiles for the tower/keep floor space
1 tile for wall
6 road tile

= 48 tiles sub total.
So I just mirror this for the NW, NE, SW, and SE sections.
The wagon starts somewhere in the middle in a flat area (0 to 1 elevation). 

With the macro to mark, it is easy to figure out where the road will be if I were to make it a project.

2. Since each embark is only for 1 year, there was not much time to do things.  I set the pop-cap to 20.

Year 02. 7 Founder + 6 summer + 6 autumn migrants = 20 pop.

3. I renamed with 3 to 4 letter First Names that refelect gender.  Shea is female, Asmo is male.
Last Names are related to profession/labor of likes.
Professional Title "02 Shea" indicates Founder of Year 02, while "02.3 Asmo" means Year 2 autumn migrant.
I also added (m. 02.3 Kaga) to indicate dward is married to Kaga of Year 2 autumn migrant.

4. Founder's starting skill determine what the year will unfold. 
My embark had no iron, but I can bring hematite and marble.  Unfortunately, not bituminous coal.  So I was making charcoal just to smelt and make steel bars all of spring.  Hauling these down to the keep takes longer that making 3 wood burners, 3 smelters, and 2 forge out in the open is easier until you have a pack of stealing animals come in the area. 

5. I brought 40+ stones and made blocks to make a 2 level keep with roof (7x7 floor space).   The keep was not finished being roofed until end of summer. 

6. Prepared meals are the way to go to have something to trade.  8 x 10 meat, 4 x 10 garden vege, 25 drinks x 4 each type is good enough. 

7. Local Herbalism by 4 founders bring in plenty to brew and cook later.  Worth doing while 2 miners dig, and 1 wood cutter mass cut all surface trees. 

8. Water source can be an issue, so cavern digging to get a well is somewhat important.  5 to 10 Cage traps come in handy for cavern 1.

9. I would probably just do a 20 room dorm next time, with a tavern: 5x5 dance floor, 4x4 table and chairs, 3x3 drinks, 1x2 food, and 1x1 coffer. 

10. Farmer's workshop, loom, and clothier comes into play when setting up a hospital.  Just need a water source. 

11. I was able to start military training by autumn after the depot is setup.  Untamed Wild embark, so I had 8 Giant Gray Langurs wanting to steel my outdoor steel weapons.  2 Marksdwarf, 3 Axedwarfs, and 2 Hammerdwarfs gained decent xp defending 2 waves of those packs.  With some injuries.

12. I was caught up to min/max potential moods for weapons or armor.  No moods happened in the year.  Probably because I did not dig much. 
Although I think it's worth it my founders to start with Crossbow+5, Weaponsmith+5. 

Each workshop (carpenter, mason, etc) is profiled to be used Max Novice level forexample.  So enabling the others labors will not mess up highest moodable skills.

13. I find it convenient to have a founder do manager and record keeper asap so I can queue 20 beds, 20 barrels, 20 buckets, etc after I make a chair office.

14. Had 1 petition from a female human bard whose dreams is to ruling the world.

Year 03 was less successful due to a deeper dig to 2nd cavern to find water.

1. Made 20 2x2 bedrooms around the tavern area.  Big mistake.  I should have just started with 7 bedrooms, or a simple dorm. 

2. 2 Founders are Mace+3, Teacher+3, Weaponsmith+2.  But they did not get to train util mid autumn.

3. Summer has 2 migrants from Year 02, and Autumn has 4 migrants from Year 02.  No new void dwarf migrants. 

4. So I had a population of 13, but had 1 killed (a miner getting wood to make charcoal) by a Giant Gray Langur. 

5. Langurs manages to steel stuff from embark wagon. 

6. Using trade depot to move junk from wagon seems like priority.  Got gypsum plasters and sand bags moved that way, plus all the scattered wood buckets, barrels, and mechanisms from the dismantled surface workshops. 

7. My plan project of building a road to connect to the Year 02 fort to the west did not happen.  Not enough people.  Not enough time.  Not enough blocks made. 

8. In the end, I had a nice hospital with a well water pumped fresh from cavern 2.

9. I only had a few Human Bard visitors.

Anyway, those are my notes over the 2 forts to see how Bloodline plays.

[Timeless Bob]

Tiles 4 + 5
Temple strict
Should contain themed temples of all the civ's major gods, as well as a cathedral of Armok.
A possible name... If we can, Cathedral Square.

Just checked and the only way to get "Cathedral" is to put it as "The Cathedral".   So that leaves us with "The Square of Cathedrals", which is the best translation I can find.

[Imic]

Tiles 4 + 5
Temple strict
Should contain themed temples of all the civ's major gods, as well as a cathedral of Armok.
A possible name... If we can, Cathedral Square.

Just checked and the only way to get "Cathedral" is to put it as "The Cathedral".   So that leaves us with "The Square of Cathedrals", which is the best translation I can find.

That works. We should have more than one.

[Timeless Bob]

The Goldenbasis District was all going to starve to death before the next caravan would arrive, so I've set up the Square of Cathedrals District ahead of schedule.  It's had its own set of misfortunes, as you'll read in the year 013 history, but the events in The Square during year 013 have created a grim heroine miner, who may prove useful if she ever immigrates to the Goldenbasis District.

[Imic]

I'm excited!
 

[Timeless Bob]

So, I've added a 3/4 view map over in the "Districts" area, which should help you to visualize the landscape for each new District better.  Since it's made up of a bunch of embark maps stitched together using Microsoft Paint magic, I'll be adding the District updates to the map, which will give us a kind of year by year overall view of The City growing and spreading.

[Bearskie]

Wow. It always astounds me to see the level of detail you put into these things, Timeless.

[Maximum Spin]

I think the next district ought to centre on the construction of a fine Tax and Customs Office, its decoration heavily featuring the image of a large clay pot — which I have been imagining as the symbol of Clan Dentedglazed — since they hold the office of Tax Collector. The fact that Dentedglazed are my own personal chosen clan has nothing to do with it, naturally. Outside the Tax and Customs Office, I imagine a large courtyard holding an open bazaar, the easier to collect taxes from. I'd call it Idräthtezad, the Treasure-Pot.

[Timeless Bob]

I think the next district ought to centre on the construction of a fine Tax and Customs Office, its decoration heavily featuring the image of a large clay pot — which I have been imagining as the symbol of Clan Dentedglazed — since they hold the office of Tax Collector. The fact that Dentedglazed are my own personal chosen clan has nothing to do with it, naturally. Outside the Tax and Customs Office, I imagine a large courtyard holding an open bazaar, the easier to collect taxes from. I'd call it Idräthtezad, the Treasure-Pot.

This is a fine idea.  It may be a few years yet before we get to building the next District, since the current one at the north base of The Cinder is supposed to have several cathedrals built around a central "square". Much more difficult when the damn "True Mirror" necromancers and their goblin minions are playing merry hob with my plans to have a heavily populated dwarven city by killing everyone in my Districts off! Grrrr!  Looks like we'll have to wait for Armok's Blessing (New dwarves springing from the ground fully formed) or some more immigrants from Risenes Hamlet before things can really start hopping again.

[Maximum Spin]

This is a fine idea.  It may be a few years yet before we get to building the next District, since the current one at the north base of The Cinder is supposed to have several cathedrals built around a central "square".

Yeah, I figured, but I wanted to get the suggestion in early since the poll was open.

[Timeless Bob]

This is a fine idea.  It may be a few years yet before we get to building the next District, since the current one at the north base of The Cinder is supposed to have several cathedrals built around a central "square".

Yeah, I figured, but I wanted to get the suggestion in early since the poll was open.

Right.  Good thinking.