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Zeebie

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Slopes at water's edge?
« on: August 24, 2017, 05:13:03 pm »

I'm returning to DF after an absence of a year or so, and I was puzzled to see that ponds no longer had slopes at their edges (naturally, I discovered this after losing three dwarfs to drowning).  Was this removed? Is there some setting that can bring it back?
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Re: Slopes at water's edge?
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2017, 10:00:38 pm »

Hmmm? All ponds have slopes in them for me. They're occassionally only from one side though, so you're possibly REALLY unlucky.
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Re: Slopes at water's edge?
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2017, 10:18:06 pm »

Yeah, I'm puzzled too. Are you sure it wasn't a really tiny ocean? (Not joking)

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Re: Slopes at water's edge?
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2017, 04:17:42 am »

By any chance were the ponds alongside a river or stream?  Sometimes placement of those features overwrites the slopes.  If you don't have slopes on any of your ponds/murky pools then it is almost certainly some kind of bug.

Edit: are you in a biome that freezes?  You can't see the slopes in the ponds when they're frozen, and dwarves will happily path over them up to the moment they melt, frequently causing deaths.
« Last Edit: August 25, 2017, 04:21:03 am by NullForceOmega »
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Re: Slopes at water's edge?
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2017, 04:23:56 am »

NullForceOmega covered some of the below, as the post was made while I typed:

As said by others, ponds have ramps, and I don't think I've seen one that is completely ramp-less. If you lost dorfs to drowning, how did they get into the water? The only ways to get into water, as far as I know, are:
- Falling
- Dodging
- Being tossed
- Pathing (which requires a ramp and a sufficiently low water level)
- Walking on ice that thaws.

Note that pathing through low depth water when it freezes is instantly lethal.

You can channel at the edge(s) of these pools to create (new) ramps, or you can build a floor to cover them.
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Zeebie

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Re: Slopes at water's edge?
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2017, 08:09:59 am »

Yes, they dodged in. 

Well, I'm glad this isn't normal, must be a fluke.  I definitely don't have any slopes.  I've dug in slopes now for future incidents. Thanks all.
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Re: Slopes at water's edge?
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2017, 06:37:44 am »

Out of curiosity, what version are you playing?
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Re: Slopes at water's edge?
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2017, 07:30:47 am »

Out of curiosity, what version are you playing?

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Re: Slopes at water's edge?
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2017, 11:11:13 am »

*shrugs* Could have had a cave-in beforehand that destroyed the ramps, I suppose.