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[snow dwarf]

So, I just looked through a world a friend showed me, because there is a dwarven civ that apparently only has an elven retreat when you look at the sites that are highlighted from the civilization you embark with. But I looked through the legends and they seem to have a mountain home as well, but why wouldn't it be shown on the map? Could it be just below ground? Any other ideas?

[Ironfang]

The mountain homes might be the retreat.

[PatrikLundell]

Was the mountainhome still under dwarven control? It's not uncommon for dorfs to lose the mountainhome. Using Legends Mode (or exporting the data and viewing it with Legends Viewer) you can check who/what lives in the (former) mountainhome and who's in control of it. If they were still in control of the mountainhome that site should show up in the pre embark info.

Edit: My primary guess is that the mountainhome is lost and the civ now consists of a group of refugees huddled together in a depopulated forest retreat they've come upon.

[snow dwarf]

No, the mountainhome is still there cause that's what the legends said and the king is there. Also migrants came. And the retreat isn't the mountainhome.

[Shonai_Dweller]

1) Which map are you taking about?

2) Can you select the mountainhome site as a starting location in adventurer?

3) Are you sure the mountainhome is actually of your dwarven civ, and not one of the other dwarven civs?

[snow dwarf]

1) Which map are you taking about?

2) Can you select the mountainhome site as a starting location in adventurer?

3) Are you sure the mountainhome is actually of your dwarven civ, and not one of the other dwarven civs?

1)Embark map in Dwarf mode,
2)Haven't tried
3)80% sure.

[Shonai_Dweller]

1) Which map are you taking about?

2) Can you select the mountainhome site as a starting location in adventurer?

3) Are you sure the mountainhome is actually of your dwarven civ, and not one of the other dwarven civs?

1)Embark map in Dwarf mode,
2)Haven't tried
3)80% sure.

Try adventurer, see what happens.
Then on the embark map, switch to a different dwarf civ and see if the site appears.

[mikekchar]

Easier way:  From legends mode, 'p' for 'export map/gen info'.  Then have a look in your dwarffortress directory.  There will be a file called 'someworld-00125-01-01-world_sites_and_pops.txt' (where the numbers are the game date that you exported the info.  Look for the cities in that file and take a look at the "Paren Civ" line.  If it is missing, it's because the city is ruined.  You can also look at the  'blah-blah-world_history.txt' file to see who the current king is, etc.

Now, once you've verified the ownership of the cities, you can go into legends mode and look at what's happened to the city.  You can either look at "sites" or somethings it is easier (if you suspect that a war happened), to go and look in "The Age of <whatever>" and look for conflicts with those civs.  As long as the sites involved existed at least 10 years previously you can also search for the sites on the "Historical Maps".  Using that you can see what influence each civ has around the site.  It helps if you already know where to look -- using a tool like legends viewer or legends browser can often help a lot.

My guess is that your civ defeated the elves in that site and took over the forest retreat.  If they, in turn, lost every other site, I suppose it could become the mountain home.  If so, it would be interesting to visit it in adventure mode to see what it looked like.