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[webadict]

"Just do it. My podmates are dead. I'm stuck in this body with memories or a horrible war I never wanted to be in. This world has nothing for me. I don't care anymore." He bows his head and folds his clawed hands in his lap.

"Cool." Webadict sends two barrels of shot into the Doppelganger War Vet's brain.

I'm glad I'm a sociopath in fake life, too.

[IronyOwl]

Pffft, DA you troll. There's gotta be a rule against lying to ghosts or something!

Definitely a bizarre and hilarious game.

[Leafsnail]

The setup seems pretty town-sided, the numbers were fairly favourable and the dopps had a lot of chances to mess up and die with their kills. Although it actually came down to Tiruin immediately sniping scum on night one and some mistakes from the dopp team.

TBF: I'm curious whether you deliberately hid your anti-tech field.

[TheBiggerFish]

@Leafsnail:Only partially.

[Persus13]

Pretty sure Tiruin claimed hivemind to try and flush out the scum. It was also a claim that was easily proven false.

PM conversations

Spoiler: Hector13 and doll (click to show/hide)

We should coordinate who is guarding who tonight. I'd like to wait until after today's lynch so we have more information, but I'm just sending this to you all so you're thinking about it now.

We might also want to check with TDS or Tiruin to make sure they don't kill someone we decide to protect.

I'm alright with this.

As a preliminary, though, I'd say Persus should probably protect Tiruin though, seeing as the heroic guard protects from all night-kills.

This means one of doll or myself should probably protect Persus, as they're a bit more valuable.

If TDS trades tech then they're essentially VT, and thus expendable.

DA is probably another reasonable target to protect, despite my misgivings. If they're scum they're not going to be hit, but if they're Town then they'd useful.

Meaning doll or myself are going to be NK targets, probably. Most likely doll though, since it won't give town-cred to TDS when they flip.

Guard chain is a go then?

I don't see why not.

So Persus guards Tiruin, I'll guard Persus and doll guards me?

Spoiler: TDS, doll, and Tiruin (click to show/hide)

So there's two options here. Leafsnail is a doppelganger or Leafsnail is a survivor/townie. I assume either way he's getting assassinated tonight, but if he flips town/survivor, what's the plan?

I have not received any PM about you sharing your tech, TDS :I
Gimme dat tech!

But yeah--seriously, people are forgetting that the assassin bot is a day action. Or at least that's as far as my memory retention here.

BUT, I'm also of the belief that webby is town--that has a long list of folks as who I lean town on (See: my post), but I'm both leery of two things:
1. Can't infer the power role balance. As Meph randomized this test game.
Although I'd be meta-biased if I thought along him saying 'test' game
2. Telepath dopp; Dopp lead. I am particularly assuming that RattyB's claim was assumptive or hair-triggered, as in he posted it himself without checking with his team--or at least I'm leaning that way now. Given that DA's post was particularly late (assuming 'absence of input' in scumchat), I'm also going to recheck on those late posters there post-Lynchee.
3. I'm betting one of the War Vets is scum because it'd have a sense of balance. [/worstunsubstantiatedbet]

That said, it'd be weird for that kind of scumteam to claim--Leaf as kook, given his attitude [I can understand work stress and he...isn't...showing it? If I"m wrong and Leaf is scum, someone splash their favorite kind of tea on my face end-game or MEPH add that in as flavor if I live ]
So I'm of the belief as I mentioned in that post--the scumteam played safe given their loss of RattyB. DA, akin to Leafsnail-conundrum, does not mutually clear the other and vice versa if Leafy was in DA's place.

We have a lone dopp and a possible unknown # of other town hostiles. And an alien o_O Who is pretty much Town-Ally given our dead Agent.

That said, it'd be HILARIOUS IF YOU WERE A SILENT EXTERMINATOR, TDS

So, uh, yeah. Plan is Persus hugs me. Doll, if a hivemind or whatever, still targets me (I don't think hiveminds can show up with heroic/observant guard), but I trust both of you. TDS is an Alien Operative Ally dude and can't be a dopp whatsoever so I'd rather he trade his tech to me

...Like, when you get on soon.
Meph: I'm unsure if we can ask you things...in a PM chain chat, but can other players that are not the supposed alien 'propose' a trade? Like, it's not a specific trade but a general one just in case?

Also could I ask why'd you pick us, Persus? :O

First, the assassination bot is a night action. Only the advanced one works during the day.

Second, how about this: I shoot one of Leafsnail and TBF tonight and give my shield to Tiruin to confirm my role?

First, the assassination bot is a night action. Only the advanced one works during the day.

Second, how about this: I shoot one of Leafsnail and TBF tonight and give my shield to Tiruin to confirm my role?

R-riiight. I keep using the MILITARY SCIENTIST.

Military Scientist
Assassin bot: Once per game the MS can use the assassin bot to perform a Morning Kill on another player. This attack cannot be traced back to the Mad Scientist.

<_<
Meph, I think you should clarify this bit in adding text to alien tech, it also seems to work as a subtle tell given when people say day/night :/
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIT WAT.

Assassin bot: Once per game the Alien can use the assassin bot to Morning-kill another player. This attack cannot be traced back to the Alien. In addition, it is triggered remotely and can be used even while abducted.

You srs, Persus/TDS :V You both kept pushing it as a night action D:<

Morning kill is the same as night, it just means it occurs after everything else that night. Example

TDS, I think you should give the assassin bot to Tiruin because that way if you ge targeted by the scum kill, we don't lose the assassin bot.

Also, I picked you all because doll's the man with the plan, and you two are the ones who need to talk in order for tonight to go well.

Morning kill is the same as night, it just means it occurs after everything else that night. Example

TDS, I think you should give the assassin bot to Tiruin because that way if you ge targeted by the scum kill, we don't lose the assassin bot.

Aww :< please commit to trading me stuff![/ButIwantTheShinyTech]

I mean you didn't start trading off the shield in the first place

[...]
Morning kills are triggered as a night action, they go off in-between Night and the start of Day.

Only the Advanced Assassin Bot is triggered as a day action.

OH O_o
Kinda missed that entirely...When I read morning kill, I thought it was processed like a 'day {role}' which has all roles PUBLICLY announced by the GM's ASAP time.

Morning kill is the same as night, it just means it occurs after everything else that night. Example

TDS, I think you should give the assassin bot to Tiruin because that way if you ge targeted by the scum kill, we don't lose the assassin bot.

Nostalgia
I really love Imp and how she played. And I also miss playing Mafia with Cado! She's awesome too ._.;
But yeah, I STILL don't have a personal message with you TDS, about the tech trade. If yer the aliens, you have to start it on your side! (Given Meph's silence, I assume it's like that anyway and we can't "request" tech)

After a trip down nostalgia lane wherein Tiruin notices all the feelings she had and the sorries and the awesome fun with awesome friends she has now (by combat? ), back into this game Tiruin feels like the ass. bot is best spent on TBF.

Or at least that's just how I thought about it regarding RattyB's behavior revised. As in here.

Because of reading one line:

@Everyone
First off, Jeez, you're all so quick to jump the gun. I am a reporter.

I didn't want to claim because I didn't really know why I would. I still don't trust doll, and think he is scum.
Especially because we know that that fillipk was trustworthy.

Last night, I followed TBF, because I wanted to make sure I was wasn't making a scum friend. He did not go
anywhere. Anyone else can confirm this. Please. I would appreciate it.

Oh yeah, doll.

Err, moreso the 'making a scum friend' bit. That completely slipped my mind as an inconspicuous statement because I was going all "HAH, FAKECLAIM, SCUM!" [and then doubted that because 'ok he may not be scum despite my tracking device results >_>]

But...yeah. Checking rattyB's only other post (as his profile logs are easy to check ._.), I see...no connection to TBF at all.
Although I can see his reads--how he addresses people seems pretty casual unless it's not.

Hang in there.

Like that bit he appends to TBF's address. Pretty casual but out of place a bit?

Anyway that's my thoughts since TDS hasn't traded me stuff at all yet. :I
Is this the Hivemind initiation circle?! I:

I'd rather the assassination bot be used on 4maskwolf as I trust them less then TBF. Leafsnial started behaving more like town after advocating a DA lynch, and DA's lynch doesn't confirm him as scum, but he could also be targeted. The fact that he posted his PMs between him and DA with links gives him a lot of town cred in my eyes, as why would DA and Leaf be PMing each other if they were on the same scumteam?

I trust the third tracking device is in place on someone (don't say who please)?

I'm sure doll would have opinions as well, but he's not posting.

[OOC]
I have really fond memories of that Paranormal, even though you could tell I was really new to Mafia. Everything went really well for town, and figuring out the puzzle of a role-heavy set up is always fun.

Spoiler: Me and Tiruin chatting after she claimed Hivemind (click to show/hide)

So what possessed you to fakeclaim Hivemind?

I have no idea. Webadict...I guess.

...
I think I broke webadict.

But we're both into it anyway.

I love you dude.


[OOC]But I do wish you well and other than sending you stuff on steam to wish you well, hope you're doing okay there! [/OOC]

It's cool. Just got frustrated by the slowness. But now we're good.

I was always the cog in the wheels to ensure the game ran smoothly.

Removed the stamps for validity.

Yeah, I don't really want to spoil the party by pointing out if you were a hivemind and had converted doll, it would have shown up on his flip.

If you get any more votes though, I may have to.

Not sure If I should play along or not in thread.

...The party would be obviously already spoiled if people would contextualize, y'know.

But...what I did, and what webadict did...pretty much sealed that TBF is an obvious dopp. I mean he was before but that's not yet sure and he could just be flailing Town but THIS.

Thiiiiiis.

But just wait for the rest to post. What we're doing is pretty much getting people TO talk. Ala "Doll's requiem".

"Remember the stuff in the past, it's important NOW". Or just what he said in D2 regarding 'talking'.
But seriously if I was a hivemind I'd be hard pressed :I [and still grumpy that I wasn't hiveminded]. Web was so good that he even got me thinking 'is Web really not town?!' back there until I contextualized.

[webadict]

Wait, was my performance that good? Were others enthralled by my epic portrayal of a Lone Doppelganger, alone in the world, ready to protect mankind against the very monsters he once was? I hope so. I like to think I'm that unpredictable that it is always a possibility.

[Tiruin]

Pretty sure Tiruin claimed hivemind to try and flush out the scum. It was also a claim that was easily proven false.

PM conversations

Spoiler: Hector13 and doll (click to show/hide)

We should coordinate who is guarding who tonight. I'd like to wait until after today's lynch so we have more information, but I'm just sending this to you all so you're thinking about it now.

We might also want to check with TDS or Tiruin to make sure they don't kill someone we decide to protect.

I'm alright with this.

As a preliminary, though, I'd say Persus should probably protect Tiruin though, seeing as the heroic guard protects from all night-kills.

This means one of doll or myself should probably protect Persus, as they're a bit more valuable.

If TDS trades tech then they're essentially VT, and thus expendable.

DA is probably another reasonable target to protect, despite my misgivings. If they're scum they're not going to be hit, but if they're Town then they'd useful.

Meaning doll or myself are going to be NK targets, probably. Most likely doll though, since it won't give town-cred to TDS when they flip.

Guard chain is a go then?

I don't see why not.

So Persus guards Tiruin, I'll guard Persus and doll guards me?

Spoiler: TDS, doll, and Tiruin (click to show/hide)

So there's two options here. Leafsnail is a doppelganger or Leafsnail is a survivor/townie. I assume either way he's getting assassinated tonight, but if he flips town/survivor, what's the plan?

I have not received any PM about you sharing your tech, TDS :I
Gimme dat tech!

But yeah--seriously, people are forgetting that the assassin bot is a day action. Or at least that's as far as my memory retention here.

BUT, I'm also of the belief that webby is town--that has a long list of folks as who I lean town on (See: my post), but I'm both leery of two things:
1. Can't infer the power role balance. As Meph randomized this test game.
Although I'd be meta-biased if I thought along him saying 'test' game
2. Telepath dopp; Dopp lead. I am particularly assuming that RattyB's claim was assumptive or hair-triggered, as in he posted it himself without checking with his team--or at least I'm leaning that way now. Given that DA's post was particularly late (assuming 'absence of input' in scumchat), I'm also going to recheck on those late posters there post-Lynchee.
3. I'm betting one of the War Vets is scum because it'd have a sense of balance. [/worstunsubstantiatedbet]

That said, it'd be weird for that kind of scumteam to claim--Leaf as kook, given his attitude [I can understand work stress and he...isn't...showing it? If I"m wrong and Leaf is scum, someone splash their favorite kind of tea on my face end-game or MEPH add that in as flavor if I live ]
So I'm of the belief as I mentioned in that post--the scumteam played safe given their loss of RattyB. DA, akin to Leafsnail-conundrum, does not mutually clear the other and vice versa if Leafy was in DA's place.

We have a lone dopp and a possible unknown # of other town hostiles. And an alien o_O Who is pretty much Town-Ally given our dead Agent.

That said, it'd be HILARIOUS IF YOU WERE A SILENT EXTERMINATOR, TDS

So, uh, yeah. Plan is Persus hugs me. Doll, if a hivemind or whatever, still targets me (I don't think hiveminds can show up with heroic/observant guard), but I trust both of you. TDS is an Alien Operative Ally dude and can't be a dopp whatsoever so I'd rather he trade his tech to me

...Like, when you get on soon.
Meph: I'm unsure if we can ask you things...in a PM chain chat, but can other players that are not the supposed alien 'propose' a trade? Like, it's not a specific trade but a general one just in case?

Also could I ask why'd you pick us, Persus? :O

First, the assassination bot is a night action. Only the advanced one works during the day.

Second, how about this: I shoot one of Leafsnail and TBF tonight and give my shield to Tiruin to confirm my role?

First, the assassination bot is a night action. Only the advanced one works during the day.

Second, how about this: I shoot one of Leafsnail and TBF tonight and give my shield to Tiruin to confirm my role?

R-riiight. I keep using the MILITARY SCIENTIST.

Military Scientist
Assassin bot: Once per game the MS can use the assassin bot to perform a Morning Kill on another player. This attack cannot be traced back to the Mad Scientist.

<_<
Meph, I think you should clarify this bit in adding text to alien tech, it also seems to work as a subtle tell given when people say day/night :/
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIT WAT.

Assassin bot: Once per game the Alien can use the assassin bot to Morning-kill another player. This attack cannot be traced back to the Alien. In addition, it is triggered remotely and can be used even while abducted.

You srs, Persus/TDS :V You both kept pushing it as a night action D:<

Morning kill is the same as night, it just means it occurs after everything else that night. Example

TDS, I think you should give the assassin bot to Tiruin because that way if you ge targeted by the scum kill, we don't lose the assassin bot.

Also, I picked you all because doll's the man with the plan, and you two are the ones who need to talk in order for tonight to go well.

Morning kill is the same as night, it just means it occurs after everything else that night. Example

TDS, I think you should give the assassin bot to Tiruin because that way if you ge targeted by the scum kill, we don't lose the assassin bot.

Aww :< please commit to trading me stuff![/ButIwantTheShinyTech]

I mean you didn't start trading off the shield in the first place

[...]
Morning kills are triggered as a night action, they go off in-between Night and the start of Day.

Only the Advanced Assassin Bot is triggered as a day action.

OH O_o
Kinda missed that entirely...When I read morning kill, I thought it was processed like a 'day {role}' which has all roles PUBLICLY announced by the GM's ASAP time.

Morning kill is the same as night, it just means it occurs after everything else that night. Example

TDS, I think you should give the assassin bot to Tiruin because that way if you ge targeted by the scum kill, we don't lose the assassin bot.

Nostalgia
I really love Imp and how she played. And I also miss playing Mafia with Cado! She's awesome too ._.;
But yeah, I STILL don't have a personal message with you TDS, about the tech trade. If yer the aliens, you have to start it on your side! (Given Meph's silence, I assume it's like that anyway and we can't "request" tech)

After a trip down nostalgia lane wherein Tiruin notices all the feelings she had and the sorries and the awesome fun with awesome friends she has now (by combat? ), back into this game Tiruin feels like the ass. bot is best spent on TBF.

Or at least that's just how I thought about it regarding RattyB's behavior revised. As in here.

Because of reading one line:

@Everyone
First off, Jeez, you're all so quick to jump the gun. I am a reporter.

I didn't want to claim because I didn't really know why I would. I still don't trust doll, and think he is scum.
Especially because we know that that fillipk was trustworthy.

Last night, I followed TBF, because I wanted to make sure I was wasn't making a scum friend. He did not go
anywhere. Anyone else can confirm this. Please. I would appreciate it.

Oh yeah, doll.

Err, moreso the 'making a scum friend' bit. That completely slipped my mind as an inconspicuous statement because I was going all "HAH, FAKECLAIM, SCUM!" [and then doubted that because 'ok he may not be scum despite my tracking device results >_>]

But...yeah. Checking rattyB's only other post (as his profile logs are easy to check ._.), I see...no connection to TBF at all.
Although I can see his reads--how he addresses people seems pretty casual unless it's not.

Hang in there.

Like that bit he appends to TBF's address. Pretty casual but out of place a bit?

Anyway that's my thoughts since TDS hasn't traded me stuff at all yet. :I
Is this the Hivemind initiation circle?! I:

I'd rather the assassination bot be used on 4maskwolf as I trust them less then TBF. Leafsnial started behaving more like town after advocating a DA lynch, and DA's lynch doesn't confirm him as scum, but he could also be targeted. The fact that he posted his PMs between him and DA with links gives him a lot of town cred in my eyes, as why would DA and Leaf be PMing each other if they were on the same scumteam?

I trust the third tracking device is in place on someone (don't say who please)?

I'm sure doll would have opinions as well, but he's not posting.

[OOC]
I have really fond memories of that Paranormal, even though you could tell I was really new to Mafia. Everything went really well for town, and figuring out the puzzle of a role-heavy set up is always fun.

Spoiler: Me and Tiruin chatting after she claimed Hivemind (click to show/hide)

So what possessed you to fakeclaim Hivemind?

I have no idea. Webadict...I guess.

...
I think I broke webadict.

But we're both into it anyway.

I love you dude.


[OOC]But I do wish you well and other than sending you stuff on steam to wish you well, hope you're doing okay there! [/OOC]

It's cool. Just got frustrated by the slowness. But now we're good.

I was always the cog in the wheels to ensure the game ran smoothly.

Removed the stamps for validity.

Yeah, I don't really want to spoil the party by pointing out if you were a hivemind and had converted doll, it would have shown up on his flip.

If you get any more votes though, I may have to.

Not sure If I should play along or not in thread.

...The party would be obviously already spoiled if people would contextualize, y'know.

But...what I did, and what webadict did...pretty much sealed that TBF is an obvious dopp. I mean he was before but that's not yet sure and he could just be flailing Town but THIS.

Thiiiiiis.

But just wait for the rest to post. What we're doing is pretty much getting people TO talk. Ala "Doll's requiem".

"Remember the stuff in the past, it's important NOW". Or just what he said in D2 regarding 'talking'.
But seriously if I was a hivemind I'd be hard pressed :I [and still grumpy that I wasn't hiveminded]. Web was so good that he even got me thinking 'is Web really not town?!' back there until I contextualized.

Heeeey thanks buddy for backing me up :3
Fillipk is awesome and so are the rest of you--and I DID fakeclaim both to humor myself (GRRR HOW I WANT TO RP and I missed the chance on N1 so I did that), and to be sure on TBF or anyone else, as I didn't have any personal hooks (day stuff) myself on anyone as compared to the role planning.

Okay.

I've been immersed too much in recent destressing in viewing stuff that can't be loaded on my usual net and remember something I've come across x3

Wait, was my performance that good? Were others enthralled by my epic portrayal of a Lone Doppelganger, alone in the world, ready to protect mankind against the very monsters he once was? I hope so. I like to think I'm that unpredictable that it is always a possibility.

Y-yes. I had doubts amongst the thousand thoughts of assassin bot'ing you >_>
<.<
Even doubts at Day 4 that you weren't town.

Then I remembered your kindness and otherwise. :O

That said, you act really well and I loved the impromptu stuff (It took me...a while to catch onto that)
Mostly because I'm a sucker for both GoodFlavor and written stories//empathic stories.

[webadict]

Careful. I'll use it against you one of these days. You've been warned.

[Tiruin]

[snip]

I love that everyone just forgot that I had tagged you as my N3 track target.

Careful. I'll use it against you one of these days. You've been warned.

I look forward to it! :I
But seriously, this was a great game ._. Doll played majestically, and there was a nice bunch of activity to scum and town teams.

[Leafsnail]

4mask was very on-point from day 3 onwards.

[Tiruin]

4mask was very on-point from day 3 onwards.

And practically why I chose to hit him with a tracking device instead of you! (You're also on-point, but it's a gordian knot of points that was also pretty visible)

But!

RattyB
02-16-2017
04:55 PM ET (US)
gg bye, I'll leave you guys alone

Play more, newbie [You left the deadchat alone too...]
The biggest reason I targeted you was your activity AND your behavior. Investigators usually have a goal to hit, and it's in filling out information gaps.

Also I love that this game, I get to hug the assassin bot at the end and not have it (technically) used (~'u')~
Pacifist run is a go!

Although I do wonder why some theories of yours, Leaf, were said as they were ._. it felt like loopholes were even intentional at times.

[Leafsnail]

I was trying to account for other possibilities. If there were no third party around the game could still be trivially won pretty much regardless of what we did on day 4 (especially since TBF was already essentially outed as a doppelganger).

Concealing the anti-tech field was correct though I think. If we'd gone with a worse plan (such as lynching me day 3) he could've maybe twisted it around so that he could win after surviving an assassin bot. Although he'd probably still lose after that since the setup was so heavily weighted against him at that point.

[Tiruin]

I'm pretty late (work and busyness and all, plus bad internet), but I love the deadchat commentary. Like IO's way of commenting stuff and being a dead cupcake.

I was trying to account for other possibilities. If there were no third party around the game could still be trivially won pretty much regardless of what we did on day 4 (especially since TBF was already essentially outed as a doppelganger).

Concealing the anti-tech field was correct though I think. If we'd gone with a worse plan (such as lynching me day 3) he could've maybe twisted it around so that he could win after surviving an assassin bot. Although he'd probably still lose after that since the setup was so heavily weighted against him at that point.

Now that I read back, a LOT of you were really better than I had thought (...thought, not noted. My notes are pretty much what I think now, but what I had thought was influenced a lot by my forgetfulness x.x), and now I know why I didn't lean for a Leafysnail lynch.

But yeah, really wishing to play with y'all later on :3 (That means you too, RattyB.) This was a nice show of a game...that wasn't compromised because I sniped scum early on o_O but by how people played it out.

...Also probably not denying the anti-tech field and instead saying you forgot would've helped. <_> In the least how I felt about it.

[doll]

As you may have intuited from my inactivity, I was inactive from D3 onwards.
This was a situation where the limited nature of time forced me to compromise on several areas of work and study at once, so I'm sure you can understand that I didn't have time for an online party game.

Even so, I'd like to apologize for leaving you out in the dry without a response.
I lost access to my B12 account due to some issues with the connected email and didn't have time to fix them. Assuming this is the last time lightning strikes my account, for the future I should at least be able to give notice of when I may disappear.