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ringringlingling

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Question about Flour and Sugar
« on: November 17, 2016, 07:15:34 pm »

Does milling a stack of 5 cave wheat give you 5 flour, or 25 flour?  Is it the same with sugar?
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Re: Question about Flour and Sugar
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2016, 10:45:33 pm »

It gives 5 flour. From the Wiki (http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Flour) "Milling plants needs one bag for every job, and one plant will be processed to make one bag of flour." The same applies to sugar and dye. Brewing gets the 5 for 1 ratio.
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Re: Question about Flour and Sugar
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2016, 07:37:10 am »

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Crop

All value marked with a "1", have a x5 multiplier in quantity.
Dwarven syrup, quarry bush leaves and all drinks.
Quarry bush leaves with x3 Dwarven syrup its the most expensive meal without using FB or giant animals fat :D .
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Re: Question about Flour and Sugar
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2016, 12:23:01 am »

Masterwork Quarry Bush Leaf Roast x100
(10+20+20+20)*100*12
*84000

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ringringlingling

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Re: Question about Flour and Sugar
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2016, 12:40:40 am »

Actually, assuming stacks of 5,
Cheese + Dwarven Syrup(3) is base value of 110 x 80, 8800
while Quarry Bush Leaves + Dwarven Syrup(3) is base value 70 x 100, 7000

With stacks of 8 its
110 base x120 units 13200
70 base x160 units 11200
« Last Edit: November 19, 2016, 12:42:18 am by ringringlingling »
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Re: Question about Flour and Sugar
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2016, 10:25:50 am »

The exact formula for Quarry bush with 3xSyrup roast is: (minimum price)
(10+10+20+20+20)*(5+5+5+5) = 80*20 = 1600
10 for the meal value, plus 10, 20, 20, 20 for basic value of Leaves + value of 3xSyrup.

But with a great planter and fertilizer, you have stacks with 25~30; and with a legendary cooker, a Masterfull roast can have a 12x multiplier.
The maximum is.
(12*10+12*10+12*20+12*20+12*20)*(30+30+30+30) = 720*120 = 115200

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Re: Question about Flour and Sugar
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2016, 09:23:03 pm »

I have to go with others and say that this is clearly broken.  I have an overseer mandate against the export of prepared meals :-)  As my fortress languishes in poverty, I'm hoping that I don't meet with an unfortunate accident.  I tend to avoid pulling levers...
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Re: Question about Flour and Sugar
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2016, 04:48:44 am »

actually, you can cook seeds right?

seeds come in stacks of 100...
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Re: Question about Flour and Sugar
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2016, 08:58:16 am »

I didn't know you got the base 10 for items, thought it was just the value of the ingrediants.
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Re: Question about Flour and Sugar
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2016, 04:07:43 pm »

so if you had two types of cheese and 200 seeds, and made a masterwork meal, that would add up to about a quarter mil, wouldn't it?
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Re: Question about Flour and Sugar
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2016, 05:51:37 pm »

100 seed in a bag isn't a stack of 100 seed.
If you make Dwarven wine with a stack of 8 pump helmet, you have a stack of 8 seeds, in a bag with more stacks.

I remember the Planepacked bug, when a cooker pick items, but the kitchen is outside the burrow or civilian alert, the cooker pick more and more until the remove of the burrow or alert.
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Planepacked

I have meals with 5 ingredients, but i don't know how repeat the meal :S .

If you want the biggest meal, catch a Giant Sperm Whale in savage oceans, and cook the meat.
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Giant_sperm_whale

If you want ‼FUN‼ with your meal, embark next to a Evil Savage Ocean.... Undead Giant Sperm Whales attack dwarves, and don't breath, so can move out of the water.
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