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mirrizin

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Has fire gotten more fiery?
« on: August 12, 2016, 10:08:13 am »

I'm running a fort in the latest version, and a fire-breathing FB appeared in cavern 3. Because of its desire to incinerate every threat, I got periodic "cave in" reports from the depths as trees were felled in flame. This got annoying.

I figured "ya know, I've taken down fire breathers before without problem, why not breach the cavern, lure it up, and kill it? What could possibly go wrong?"

For one thing, I breached the cavern using the wrong staircase and loosed the monster in corridor not far from our farms, which wasn't ideal, but something else...

In the past, it'd seemed that shields were usually pretty effective at blocking fire attacks, but this thing seemed to startlingly efficient at giving my dwarves fatal burns! They gave it a good beating with the first attack, sustaining moderate casualties, and then it retreated. When, badly banged up, it returned second time I was amazed to see it destroy 90% of the dwarves I sent after it. I couldn't even tell through the smoke how it died, though it did.

Has fire-breathing gotten more dangerous in a recent update? Or did I just encounter a peculiarly lucky enormous fire-spitting toad?
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Re: Has fire gotten more fiery?
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2016, 10:58:00 am »

With temperature on, flameables can ignite from heat of adjacent tiles.  i.e fire + wall + flameable item will go on flame due to wall being hot enough. 

Burn / Fire damage also leads to blood loss, and enough blood loss = dead.

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Re: Has fire gotten more fiery?
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2016, 10:24:00 pm »

Yeah, Toady One mentioned that he buffed fire effects in general a bit in 43.03, along with making dragonfire melt metal.

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Re: Has fire gotten more fiery?
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2016, 04:47:41 am »

I can tell you that in the current version, dragonfire will straight-up incinerate dwarves with a direct hit, even through steel shields and armor. The dwarf will literally evaporate, masterwork equipment and all, leaving no trace of there ever having been a unit in that tile and necessitating a memorial.

Even regular fire-breath will wear away your items and eventually destroy your armor completely, if your dwarf doesn't melt first.
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Re: Has fire gotten more fiery?
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2016, 07:48:20 am »

Someone on another thread hypothesized that the heat also lingers, making dwarves reluctant to path across the recently-flamed area until it cools. That's intense, and makes firebreathing a much scarier threat.

Well, I was thinking that forgotten beasts had been getting a bit too easy...
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Re: Has fire gotten more fiery?
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2016, 06:10:21 pm »

I can tell you that in the current version, dragonfire will straight-up incinerate dwarves with a direct hit, even through steel shields and armor. The dwarf will literally evaporate, masterwork equipment and all, leaving no trace of there ever having been a unit in that tile and necessitating a memorial.

Even regular fire-breath will wear away your items and eventually destroy your armor completely, if your dwarf doesn't melt first.
Hm, guess that means no more haphazardly throwing soldiers at a dragon.
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Re: Has fire gotten more fiery?
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2016, 09:14:23 pm »

I can tell you that in the current version, dragonfire will straight-up incinerate dwarves with a direct hit, even through steel shields and armor. The dwarf will literally evaporate, masterwork equipment and all, leaving no trace of there ever having been a unit in that tile and necessitating a memorial.

Even regular fire-breath will wear away your items and eventually destroy your armor completely, if your dwarf doesn't melt first.
Hm, guess that means no more haphazardly throwing soldiers at a dragon.

So, throw what, if you doesn't have enough elves?
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Re: Has fire gotten more fiery?
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2016, 10:11:45 pm »

Even regular fire-breath will wear away your items and eventually destroy your armor completely, if your dwarf doesn't melt first.
What counts as regular fire-breath?
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Re: Has fire gotten more fiery?
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2016, 01:05:34 am »

Even regular fire-breath will wear away your items and eventually destroy your armor completely, if your dwarf doesn't melt first.
What counts as regular fire-breath?
The emission of fire-breathing forgotten beasts, I presume.

Hm, guess that means no more haphazardly throwing soldiers at a dragon.

So, throw what, if you doesn't have enough elves?
I was thinking siege engines, or maybe war animals in a pinch. Expendable elf mercenaries, or better yet a modded caste of servile breeding elves usable as cannon fodder, would probably be more !!Fun!! though.
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