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How do I make a swordlike body part's attack as effective as a sword?
« on: May 30, 2016, 11:19:00 am »
I'm making a humanoid creature that has elbow blades. I want the attacks with them to be (almost) as effective as a short sword.
Spoiler: Here's what I have so far (only showing the relevant parts). (click to show/hide)

Will this work? Will this creature be able to lop off limbs with their slashes, like a sword can? If not, what do I need to change?
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Re: How do I make a swordlike body part's attack as effective as a sword?
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2016, 03:31:09 pm »
You don't need to add an extra body part - if you copy the same system used to make fingernails and stick them on the arms instead, they will be as long as the body part they are attached to.  (The reason why DF fingernails seem unusually dangerous is because the game considers them to be basically stilettos that are as long as the entire finger when calculating damage.)

You can add an extra body part if you want, though you might find them to be more... removable than you like; attacking body parts entirely made out of a hard material with strong blunt weapons will send them flying.  For attacks that use a body part, use the BODYPART token instead of the CHILD_BODYPART_GROUP (ATTACK:SLASH:BODYPART:BY_CATEGORY:BLADE).

You'll want to either make them out of metal or make a custom material that has the same properties as the metal you want (in my case, bronze).

You can lower the ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC to make the attack 'sharper', but it isn't really necessary.  These guys (using the tissue layer method) can disembowel enemies or hack off heads like it's nobody's business.  As a bonus, butchering them turns their claws into usable weapons automatically.

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« Last Edit: May 30, 2016, 03:40:38 pm by IndigoFenix »
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Re: How do I make a swordlike body part's attack as effective as a sword?
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2016, 04:56:09 pm »
Quote from: IndigoFenix on May 30, 2016, 03:31:09 pm
You don't need to add an extra body part - if you copy the same system used to make fingernails and stick them on the arms instead, they will be as long as the body part they are attached to.  (The reason why DF fingernails seem unusually dangerous is because the game considers them to be basically stilettos that are as long as the entire finger when calculating damage.)
I'm not sure what you mean - I've never seen fingernails do anything but bruise a target.
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Re: How do I make a swordlike body part's attack as effective as a sword?
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2016, 11:44:25 pm »
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You don't need to add an extra body part - if you copy the same system used to make fingernails and stick them on the arms instead, they will be as long as the body part they are attached to.  (The reason why DF fingernails seem unusually dangerous is because the game considers them to be basically stilettos that are as long as the entire finger when calculating damage.)
I'm not sure what you mean - I've never seen fingernails do anything but bruise a target.

Clothing blocks them well, since fingernail material isn't very hard.  Against bare skin, they often tear into the fat or muscle.
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Re: How do I make a swordlike body part's attack as effective as a sword?
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2016, 10:53:32 am »
Spoiler: I uh, may at some bored point have done this: (click to show/hide)

No extra bodyparts or even tissues needed! Erm, point was that you can make bodypart attacks pretty effective with just the attack tokens. Using an actually sharp tissue layer (bone, horn, etc) would help though.

Or, if you want a separate bodypart you can make it [EMBEDDED] to at least keep it from being severed. It may still break easily if you only make it out of hard material though.
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Re: How do I make a swordlike body part's attack as effective as a sword?
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2016, 07:44:41 pm »
I once made it possible to punch people with your brain while testing hidden blades.
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