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[Roses]

Yeah, it's unfortunate that so much information in the unit is actually just a reference to the raws. Limits what can be done.

[milo christiansen]

Would it be possible to hack in a new definition for each constructed creature?

[Roses]

Would it be possible to hack in a new definition for each constructed creature?

Not sure, you would basically need to add in a new caste with the correct material components. But I don't think it would last through a save/reload and would most likely corrupt the game save (from the little experience I had with trying something similar).

[Putnam]

It may be possible to do it by both editing the raws in the memory and in the game files.

[milo christiansen]

It shouldn't corrupt the save if every reference to the creature is updated properly, although it would be easy to miss something...

Updating the save raws would be possible, but a pain.

[Roses]

It shouldn't corrupt the save if every reference to the creature is updated properly, although it would be easy to miss something...

Updating the save raws would be possible, but a pain.

The problem is, if I remember correctly, every time the game is loaded it re-reads the raws from the files. Thus it will have a raw definition for a creature with only 1 caste, but creatures in the game that are caste 2/3/4... You would have to update both loaded in raws and the actual .txt files

[milo christiansen]

Updating the save raws would be possible, but a pain.

Lua has some file IO functions that work fine with DFHack.

[IndigoFenix]

No, it's basically done.  I had thought that each creature stored a separate list of materials, which is where the whole idea of the script came from.  Ugh, that means that the gnome constructs have never actually been what they were supposed to be.

I wonder if there's a way to simulate a material change with attributes, though.  If you take a creature with body materials that have the properties of copper, and multiply its strength and toughness enough, will it function like a creature made of iron?  Do strength and toughness actually increase the functional "hardness" of the creature's body materials, or do they affect damage differently?  Does anyone know how the collision equations work?

[palu]

Will these work in 0.42?

[IndigoFenix]

DFhack hasn't been updated yet, so not until then, at least.

Once we have DFhack, the simpler scripts should work at least.  Souls might be different now since there's a lot more information to keep track of, and constructcreature apparently never worked in the first place, so that script will need to be redone.

[palu]

There is an alpha DFHack now, which is why I asked.

[Isngrim]

constructcreature apparently never worked in the first place, so that script will need to be redone.

ive been thinking about that,would it be possible to change the caste that is spawned based on the item/materials used in the reaction?

so (assuming the regent in this example reaction is tool_frame with no material requirement)if a gnome brings an iron frame to the workshop the construct script will spawn the intended creature but the caste will be one with an iron frame body part,and any other matching regents that the reaction calls for