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I have generated only 1 dwarf civ, and it was not dead or dying.

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I have generated only 1 dwarf civ, and it was dead or dying.

2 (9.1%)

I have generated multiple dwarf civs, and none were dead or dying.

8 (36.4%)

I have generated multiple dwarf civs, some where dead or dying but not all.

11 (50%)

I have generated multiple dwarf civs, and all were dead or dying.

1 (4.5%)

Total Members Voted: 22

Voting closed: December 25, 2015, 06:11:30 pm

[iambap]

I've seen a couple people mention that it there civ was dead or dying -- I have generated only one dwarf civ in 0.42.01, and it was also dead or dying.  I understand that is not new, but I'm curious if it's more prevalent -- or just coincidence.

I'm using CLA's graphics pack so I didin't vote, since that makes it not strictly vanilla.

BTW, thanks for my favorite graphics pack, CLA

[austinwelser]

feels like there are more dead dorf civs now, almost never had any dead civs on 40 but now I seem to get dead civs fairly often.

[nothingSpecial]

In smaller world it is oftent for me to generate either dwarves or elves being wiped out. Hopefully now there are also mixed population, with joint human-elven-dwarven-goblin mountainhomes hilariously went into loyalty cascade on my adventurer's embark.

[EuphoriaToRegret]

I've generated 6 worlds since the release, 3 medium, two smaller, and one pocket.
All of them were generated to 250 (except for the pocket, which was exactly 1000.)
I didn't see a single dwarf civ that was dead or dying.

However, In every single one of those worlds, goblins were dying out.

[Nyxalinth]

I almost never get humans or kobolds lately.

[Vuohijumala]

I, on the other hand, have seen elves get constantly wiped out in the latest release. Not that I'm complaining.

[FortunaDraken]

I think it's not so much dead or dying, by reading the replies, but more now that sieges work it's more common to end up with people being wiped out :|a

[omega_dwarf]

Definitely feels like it was already common in the last version.

[mispy]

If you want your civs to survive early world gen more often, decrease the number of megabeasts/titans. They can destroy settlements as a history event and if they do it right at the start it may be the only few settlements that civ has.

[nekoexmachina]

I just always set civilization number to 2x default, and some of civs survive.

[Codyo]

It's always possible for a large number of megabeasts to kill a civilization early.
Dead civs have been more common since version .40 too.

I rarely see them in normal world generation. But in advanced parameters they are always guaranteed since I double or triple Savagery and Beasts.

[Table Turning]

It seems to me that some dorf civs spawn in mountains next to tundra, which they can't expand to and die off when a megabeast looks at them funny a few years later.