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[Skribbblie]

I've been trying to create two additional castes (one male, one female) of every civilization-building race, which are vampires upon birth. However, I have run into the problem that they aren't... hated. And furthermore, they don't seem to suck blood/murder anyone during worldgen.

Additionally, if I confront them about being a night creature, they claim they have killed many fearsome opponents(!), but do not initiate a fight over it. Nor do any of the witnesses nearby.

So what makes vampires hated? The bloodsucking? The murders? The existence of the major curse itself?

[Halnoth]

I think its the curse itself. In a somewhat recent dev post by toady he said the dwarves that toppled statues in his test temple that were cursed with vampirism were instantly enemies of the fort. If it were the blood sucking or murders then this shouldn't be so.

[CulixCupric]

it IS the curse, however i think it's more specifically the [BLOODSUCKER] Caste creature token attached to them by the curse... to quote the wiki "Seems to be required to make the creature denouncable as a creature of the night."

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Creature_token#BLOODSUCKER

[Skribbblie]

it IS the curse, however i think it's more specifically the [BLOODSUCKER] Caste creature token attached to them by the curse... to quote the wiki "Seems to be required to make the creature denouncable as a creature of the night."

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Creature_token#BLOODSUCKER

Ah, but it's the curse that makes them hated during worldgen, at least. If you assign [BLOODSUCKER] to a caste, they won't bother sucking blood for the ENTIRETY of worldgen, and will be completely un-hated. Furthermore, if you confront them as night creatures, they don't attack. And if you kill them, it's just murder.