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Lozzymandias

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Burying limbs of a living dwarf
« on: January 12, 2016, 02:12:32 pm »

My mason had a tussle with the reanimated corpse of a gorlak. The military got there in time to rescue him but not, alas his hand. He got dragged away to the hospital, the bleeding stump sewn up and his wounds tended to. He may die of infection, he may live, time will tell. In the meantime, what do i do with his hand? I can dump it in magma, but if i do that will he be properly entombed if when he does die, or will i have to slab him as well? Alternatively i can stick it in an out of the way refuse pile and disinter it when the inevitable occurs?
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Re: Burying limbs of a living dwarf
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2016, 03:15:25 pm »

My mason had a tussle with the reanimated corpse of a gorlak. The military got there in time to rescue him but not, alas his hand. He got dragged away to the hospital, the bleeding stump sewn up and his wounds tended to. He may die of infection, he may live, time will tell. In the meantime, what do i do with his hand? I can dump it in magma, but if i do that will he be properly entombed if when he does die, or will i have to slab him as well? Alternatively i can stick it in an out of the way refuse pile and disinter it when the inevitable occurs?

You can't bury the hand until he's dead.

If you destroy the hand without destroying his body, there will be no problem burying him later. The only practical reason to keep the hand around is if you anticipate losing/being unable to bury his body when he does eventually die. As long as there's even one piece of his corpse in a coffin, a dwarf won't rise.
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Re: Burying limbs of a living dwarf
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2016, 03:34:30 pm »

My mason had a tussle with the reanimated corpse of a gorlak. The military got there in time to rescue him but not, alas his hand. He got dragged away to the hospital, the bleeding stump sewn up and his wounds tended to. He may die of infection, he may live, time will tell. In the meantime, what do i do with his hand? I can dump it in magma, but if i do that will he be properly entombed if when he does die, or will i have to slab him as well? Alternatively i can stick it in an out of the way refuse pile and disinter it when the inevitable occurs?

You can't bury the hand until he's dead.

If you destroy the hand without destroying his body, there will be no problem burying him later. The only practical reason to keep the hand around is if you anticipate losing/being unable to bury his body when he does eventually die. As long as there's even one piece of his corpse in a coffin, a dwarf won't rise.

In the bin with it then! Interestingly enough, dwarves passing the hand by don't get the "eek, i looked at a piece of what was once a sapient creature, the horror" thought. It follows then, as well as from what you said, that the game has some mechanism for determining whether a limb came from something still alive or something now dead. Interesting...
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Re: Burying limbs of a living dwarf
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2016, 03:42:52 pm »

I recall someone (I'm pretty sure it was LoudWhispers) who had a situation like this, where a dwarf had lost an arm. He had a captured necromancer, so he dumped the arm to where the necromancer could see and raise it. He then captured it in a cage and installed the cage in the dwarf's bedroom.
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Re: Burying limbs of a living dwarf
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2016, 05:08:10 pm »

Dump the body part into the dwarfs own room i'd say. It's his own property after all. :P

It'll get buried along with him once he hits the sack.
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Re: Burying limbs of a living dwarf
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2016, 07:30:51 pm »

Dump the body part into the dwarfs own room i'd say. It's his own property after all. :P

It'll get buried along with him once he hits the sack.

"Hey Melbil, ever since your accident, we heard you'd been shorthanded, so we thought we'd give you a hand! handy eh?"

Melbil and the pun perpetrator are seperated by the fortress guard, and both are hammered, as their crimes dictate...

As it happens i'm on a half evil biome, his hand got up again and wandered into a cage trap. Feels like i'll be stealing Loudwhispers intellectual property (not for the first time). Might make a death pit to pit elves into, i feel the "i could take you on with one hand" jokes would get old quick though.
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Re: Burying limbs of a living dwarf
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2016, 01:11:11 am »

My mason had a tussle with the reanimated corpse of a gorlak. The military got there in time to rescue him but not, alas his hand. He got dragged away to the hospital, the bleeding stump sewn up and his wounds tended to. He may die of infection, he may live, time will tell. In the meantime, what do i do with his hand? I can dump it in magma, but if i do that will he be properly entombed if when he does die, or will i have to slab him as well? Alternatively i can stick it in an out of the way refuse pile and disinter it when the inevitable occurs?

You can't bury the hand until he's dead.

If you destroy the hand without destroying his body, there will be no problem burying him later. The only practical reason to keep the hand around is if you anticipate losing/being unable to bury his body when he does eventually die. As long as there's even one piece of his corpse in a coffin, a dwarf won't rise.

So does that mean there is a minor benefit to knocking some teeth out in a bar fight? Most of my military dwarfs like to fight and so 3/4 of them are missing teeth. So, potentially if one slips and drowns in a murky pool I dont have to engrave a slab nor fish his body out just so long as I have 1 eye tooth.
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Re: Burying limbs of a living dwarf
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2016, 01:25:11 am »

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You can't bury the hand until he's dead.

If you destroy the hand without destroying his body, there will be no problem burying him later. The only practical reason to keep the hand around is if you anticipate losing/being unable to bury his body when he does eventually die. As long as there's even one piece of his corpse in a coffin, a dwarf won't rise.

So does that mean there is a minor benefit to knocking some teeth out in a bar fight? Most of my military dwarfs like to fight and so 3/4 of them are missing teeth. So, potentially if one slips and drowns in a murky pool I dont have to engrave a slab nor fish his body out just so long as I have 1 eye tooth.

I'm not 100% sure - it may be that teeth don't count. I know a single finger does, though.

Let us know if you find out!
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Re: Burying limbs of a living dwarf
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2016, 10:56:58 am »

Onlookers recognize where a bodypart came from and by some quantum physics voodoo also know the status of the owner.  So if the owner gets mauled by a carp, anyone who sees the hand will immediately get all of the stress of seeing a corpse.

You could collect one tooth from each dwarf and set up a monitoring station.  Or just use the 'u' screen :)
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Re: Burying limbs of a living dwarf
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2016, 03:24:33 pm »

it follows then,
I read that as 'it follows them' :P
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Re: Burying limbs of a living dwarf
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2016, 04:27:54 am »

So, kind of like this guy?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81lvaro_Obreg%C3%B3n

Get that arm preserved, son.
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