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PatrikLundell

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"Stray Gremlin (Semi-Wild) has gone berserk!"?
« on: June 20, 2015, 09:21:52 am »

What's happening?

I caught two Gremlins and trained them and let them roam, trying to get myself a Gremlin Mayor. After the first one went wild I put it down, and as the second one went semi-wild I caged it (in a cage together with two Kea Men and a Hamster Man). Then I suddenly got the message in the Subject line. The Gremlin is bonded to one of the 3 animal trainers, and there isn't a whole lot of animal training to do (actually only this Gremlin since a while, and only a handful of animals before that, something a single trainer has had no problems with in past fortresses).
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Re: "Stray Gremlin (Semi-Wild) has gone berserk!"?
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2015, 01:01:18 pm »

Trainers only train wild animals in a cage.  Semi-wild animals are trained in zones with training enabled.  (To make things easier, make it a pasture that holds that animal, and also the training zone.)  Trainers will repeatedly visit the animals to keep taming them up to around +training+ level. 

If you are taming gremlins, then they aren't full members of your society, and they aren't likely going to become a mayor.  In any event, I would only try to do so with domesticated animals, which require children.
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Re: "Stray Gremlin (Semi-Wild) has gone berserk!"?
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2015, 02:33:18 pm »

I haven't seen it mentioned that Gremlin Mayors would have to be domesticated children, so I thought Gremlins might be exceptions to the usual domestication rules.
I haven't bothered with training zones in the past, mostly because I keep most undomesticated animals in cages, but also because it seemed that keeping them in pastures were enough (cave spiders have been retrained while pastured in a silk farm, for instance, and I've also managed to keep some cave critters retrained while pastured [so they could produce offspring]), I probably should use training zones, though. However, I put the Gremlin in a cage so an animal trainer should be able to retrain it while safely caged, but while berserked it seems stuck at semi-wild, and I certainly don't want to let it out in that state.
I've never encountered an animal going berserk before (but I haven't had any dorfs do it either, which I know can happen).
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Larix

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Re: "Stray Gremlin (Semi-Wild) has gone berserk!"?
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2015, 03:49:23 pm »

Sentients who are members of your fort need to sleep at regular intervals. If they fail to sleep for several months, they go mad. Creatures in cages cannot sleep.

I ran into this by accident when i made dogs sentient. Half a year after i caged a bunch of excess dogs, i got something like a dozen insanity messages all spawned on top of the cage.
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Re: "Stray Gremlin (Semi-Wild) has gone berserk!"?
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2015, 05:26:27 pm »

Thanks Larix!

That sort of explains it. I saw it was very drowsy and wondered why, since I thought only dorfs slept. I guess berserk means it's beyond recovery, so I'd have to get rid of it and catch a new mating pair (the traps have been reset, but no visitors have been triggered them).
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Re: "Stray Gremlin (Semi-Wild) has gone berserk!"?
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2015, 08:09:56 pm »

Larix, wasn't that for dwarven child care that you made dogs sentient?
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Re: "Stray Gremlin (Semi-Wild) has gone berserk!"?
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2015, 01:57:54 pm »

No; i tried to get a dog mayor. Unfortunately, being sentient alone isn't enough. They may need to be historical persons too or somesuch, i don't know. I've never been involved in dwarven child care (the Girlinhat kind of dwarven ...childcare, that is).
« Last Edit: June 21, 2015, 03:37:04 pm by Larix »
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