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Cryxis, Prince of Doom

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Dwarven medical training and med questions
« on: January 24, 2015, 07:36:33 pm »

A few healthcare questions
Is there a way to make a stairway system to drop dwarves off of to make dwarves to train your doctors on?

Also one dwarf in my military is stuck in webbing
He stopped bleeding but he still has the injury flashing thingy and it says he's pale, should I be concerned?
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Re: Dwarven medical training and med questions
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2015, 10:07:55 pm »

The best way to drop dwarves is to put them on a retracting bridge over a drop. Make a squad and station them on the bridge, then retract it.

Note: make sure the floor they land on is not too dense. DO NOT make the floor out of platinum.

If he stopped bleeding, then he is fine. Pale means that they are about to run out of blood and die, but since he has stopped bleeding, he should be fine.
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Re: Dwarven medical training and med questions
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2015, 12:45:07 am »

Ya I realized that last one
He got up and moving and not pale after I posted .-.



And would dropping dwarves be good for training your medical staff?
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Re: Dwarven medical training and med questions
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2015, 02:05:55 am »

And would dropping dwarves be good for training your medical staff?
Yep, they'll treat their wounds and level up their skills.
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Re: Dwarven medical training and med questions
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2015, 02:07:33 am »

That's oddly cool.

How large should a hospital be for a fort of ~60 dwarves?
There is a cavern where my military is doing live training so this hospital will be used on year or another eventually for probably a good chunk of my military
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Re: Dwarven medical training and med questions
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2015, 02:29:26 am »

The training is very slow.  The doctor gains about 30 exp every time. So you probably need to knock out 17 dorfs to get a novice diagnostician.

By the way, I use upward spear traps. Although it is dangerous, but since the patients are meant to be useless dorfs, I don't care.
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Re: Dwarven medical training and med questions
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2015, 03:21:12 am »

If the purpose of having good doctor is to save duarves, the best way is to not put dwarves in danger at all.

As long as there's a safe hospital with sufficient supply, any dwarf can perform medical jobs pretty well, regardless of how dabbling they are.

In fact, accident and injury is so common that you don't need to look for it.

Edit: However, your plan is probably psychologically beneficial to those injured dwarves. Being wounded is probably the fasted and most environment-friendly way to "get used to tragedy", become "a hardened individual", and finally not "care about anything any more".
« Last Edit: January 25, 2015, 03:31:07 am by §k »
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Re: Dwarven medical training and med questions
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2015, 04:08:52 am »

Have your military train on a checkerboard pattern of pillars and vertical shafts, about 5 urists deep for minor injuries I believe. That way, they will spar and do everything automatically, with no manual player input, including injuring themselves by dodging off their pillars. This should also help train their resistance to tragedy.

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Just chuck an armour stand in there somewhere, and have the bottom area lead right to the hospital for convenience. With decent armour it's incredibly unlikely that your soldiers will die or suffer permanent disabilities.
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Re: Dwarven medical training and med questions
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2015, 01:59:21 pm »

My military is already doing live training in caverns so I'm not too worried about getting them injured.
I just want to toss a few worthless dorfs *cough* baroness and mayor *cough* and get them injured to train doctors and maybe get rid of a dorf or two.

Now onto soap
I have a decent hunting/military training industry going on but for some reason I have no animal fat to make soap
Halp?
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Re: Dwarven medical training and med questions
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2015, 02:15:15 pm »

Disable tallow in the z-kitchen menu. Chances are your dwarves were cooking and eating the tallow you need. Also remember that soap needs lye!
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Re: Dwarven medical training and med questions
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2015, 02:17:08 pm »

It needs lye?
Hmmmm
Forgot that...
Isn't there something else that can be used in it's place?
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Re: Dwarven medical training and med questions
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2015, 02:44:18 pm »

It needs lye?
Hmmmm
Forgot that...
Isn't there something else that can be used in it's place?
You can replace tallow with oil but there's no replacement for lye.

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Re: Dwarven medical training and med questions
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2015, 02:44:53 pm »

Well
There's my problem
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