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[Manzeenan]

So I know that there are levels past legendary but dwarf therapist only shows legendary +5 and a raw level, how can i find my dwarfs total level fo the skill

[Aranador]

levels 'higher' than legendary +5 are irrelevant - they have exactly the same effect as legendary +5, which is why Therapist doesn't bother trying to tell you about it.  However, I think you might be able to see this representation elsewhere in one of Therapist's sub views - I do not have the program on this machine to check though.

[mndfreeze]

Wait, so Legendary isn't the highest a dwarf can achieve in a skill?  I always thought that being a legendary miner was just the best it got?

When I first started playing around with the DFHack scripts provided with the starter pack I used make_legendary all on a few dwarves to help me learn the game, etc.  It would make every skill available legendary level.  NOW YOU TELL ME THATS NOT THE BEST?!?>!>!>!>! OH NOES.

[Arcvasti]

You CAN get levels past legendary. There is a MAJOR difference between militiadwarves who are legendary+5 through danger rooms and miltiadwarves who are legendary+1894595 from being dropped onto a training spear from 2 z-levels up. It just doesn't make as much of a difference with non-combat skills.

[mndfreeze]

How can you tell what level of legendary they are?  Is there a way inside the game or is it something you just have to use therapist or some other 3rd party tool to see?

[Sergarr]

No, there is no way inside the game to know what level of legendary they're on.

There's also no way in game to know how big somebody is.

[Arcvasti]

How can you tell what level of legendary they are?  Is there a way inside the game or is it something you just have to use therapist or some other 3rd party tool to see?

No, you have to use a 3rd party tool. Legendary+X isn't as much of an improvement over Legendary+X-1 skills as say, Adequate is over Novice, so there has to be a HUGE level disparity[In the prior bugged Legendary+12445435 vs Legendary+5 example]for it to make much of a difference and you can only really get higher then legendary+10ish for all practical porpoises with bugs/exploits.

No, there is no way inside the game to know what level of legendary they're on.

There's also no way in game to know how big somebody is.

I could have sworn there was a size description at the bottom of the "v" window. Something along the lines of "Gigantic, but weak" or something like that. I thought that it just wasn't useful because it was only RELATIVE size for that species.

[Sergarr]

Relative size is pretty darn useless to know.

The lack of any in-game absolute size measurement system is why it took many years just to find an infamous "90% creatures do not grow up in size" bug.

[Manzeenan]

Therapist shows RAW level in a skill if hovered over. Im wondering if there is a difference or if there is a curve to the effectiveness of levels past legendary, one might test this by grinding a warf up in levels and counting the qualities, higher levels past legendary usually result in more masterpieces in my experience.

On a side note I always find the initial post for the shaft of enlightenment hilarious no matter how many times I read it.

[lethosor]

Wait, so Legendary isn't the highest a dwarf can achieve in a skill?  I always thought that being a legendary miner was just the best it got?

When I first started playing around with the DFHack scripts provided with the starter pack I used make_legendary all on a few dwarves to help me learn the game, etc.  It would make every skill available legendary level.  NOW YOU TELL ME THATS NOT THE BEST?!?>!>!>!>! OH NOES.

That script actually sets skills to Legendary+5 (it's one of Vjek's scripts).