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Ngosp Umbabok

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Hooking shields with axe-edges during combat
« on: December 03, 2014, 03:53:51 pm »

It would be cool if during combat axe blades would sometimes hook onto the edge of a shield and tear it from a persons hands or temporarily prevent them from using it effectively. In adventure mode this could be a difficult-to-use combat maneuver that players can do on purpose, in fort mode it would make the combat more dynamic.

If someone wielding a greataxe or someone with any kindle of axe who is really strong strikes at someone and the edge of the axe catches the inside of the shield and pulls it away from the shield-holder it would make sense for it to possibly result in the shield being ripped away or the shield-user being pulled to the ground if they try to maintain control of it.

Even if it didn't do either of those just getting a hold on the shield with the axe edge could allow the axe-holder to kick or punch the shield-holder if they were fast enough to avoid the weapon in the shield-holders other hand or if the shield-holder was put off-balance by the collision.

A persons stats and skills with blocking and/or wrestling could tie into the outcome of the axe-shield collision, with higher physical stats and higher skills making it easier to maintain control of the shield. Someone who was really strong and talented could even potentially then jerk the shield back to make the axe-user lose control of the axe or fall forward.
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bluephoenix

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Re: Hooking shields with axe-edges during combat
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2014, 06:24:50 pm »

You would have to be REALLY weak to get your shield torn out of your hand like that, you wouldn't get pulled to the ground either.

Also trying to hook someones shield (if you don't have one) opens your defence up immensely and might end really bad for you, he still has his sword arm that's not doing anything while your axe is at the edge of his shield trying to pull on it.
« Last Edit: December 03, 2014, 06:27:02 pm by bluephoenix »
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Blightedmarsh

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Re: Hooking shields with axe-edges during combat
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2014, 07:54:51 pm »

It works. You don't rip the shield out of the opponents arm you just open up their defense. Now you can exploit this with a thrust with an axe or your friends exploit the opening with their spears.

As to defense that's what your shield for. An axe is not well balanced enough to be a good defensive weapon but axe and shield is very powerful. Strong defense and strong flexible offense.
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Re: Hooking shields with axe-edges during combat
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2014, 08:03:29 pm »

I feel if you're able to hook someone's shield with an axe then you could probably just hit them with the axe. Anyway a lot of axe designs don't even have a large point at the end of the blade so this maneuver wouldn't be possible for those. Even the ones that still have a slope to them such that the axe would probably slide right off the shield.
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Re: Hooking shields with axe-edges during combat
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2014, 08:26:01 pm »

A horned axe is more useful for thrusting however it is not strictly necessary, you can thrust with an axe that isn't horned.

A bearded axe is a more effective hooking tool but again its not strictly necessary to achieve this. Now as to how effective and how useful hooking an opponents shield is depends more on the design of shield then the design of axe.

Against something small like a buckler its really now worth it; too small and far too mobile to be worthwhile.

Against a large center grip like the large round or the Celtic hexagonal shield its a far more viable prospect. These shields are pretty maneuverable and offer good protection. Because they move in the hand they are fairly easy to push the shield this way and that.

Against a strapped shield its harder to move the shield however if you can you also have the added bonus of putting your opponent off balance.

Now as to the axe sliding off that is possible however you only need your opponent open for an instant to land a good blow in.
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