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[slay_mithos]

It's all a matter of choice, some people like races that respect the DF canon (MDF doesn't), total conversions, or even just a single script or a single workshop added on top of vanilla DF.

If/when they manage to make a working "mod manager", all those small mods could in theory get a big boost in popularity, from getting a similar "easy to use" manager that is able to keep mods and scripts up to date, and customize your experience in a few clicks.

The problem for most modded games is that there is no standards (file names, .dif when adding/removing from a file, structure in the zip file, versioning...), so making such a tool is hard, and particularly unrewarding, because most modders would not agree to stick to rules that a single person decided to try to impose.
For some platforms, it is a bit different, by having a set of tags and a search system, to at least make searching and filtering easier (steam's workshop, the Nexus sites, among others).
Those sites are not perfect, and it relies on modders not checking every tag for every mod just to advertize, and popular mods will usually still be at the top, but it is able to push forward a lot more "similar" content, to be able to quickly compare and decide.


All DF has is a forum, and any non official website would have a hard time convincing modders to use it, making it take a lot more time to search through mods and find what you were looking for.

[Baffler]

The biggest problem with Masterwork in my opinion is that it raises the barrier of entry for DF modding to a degree unobtainable for most people, myself included. Whatever some people here may say, I firmly believe that the purpose of putting mods up for release here is to get it to other people who will play and enjoy it. If it was just for the modder's benefit, why bother typing up an OP, putting it up someplace to download, and going to all the trouble of helping people figure out how to use it?

That said, Masterwork pushes technical boundaries to an enormous degree. I know my own personal mod (which I hope to release someday, when it actually works as intended most of the time) has benefited greatly from MDF's interactions and castes, as well as other (non-DFHack related, because I cannot into scripting) tricks. Don't get me wrong, Masterwork is very good at what it does. It just casts a hell of a shadow.

[Meph]

Genesis did the same when I started, it had more downloads than all other mods combined.

[Putnam]

Jesus Christ, Putnam.

Putnam? How much of your free time do you designate towards TRYING to make your mods known? 0? 5 mins total maybe? I would really like to know.

yeah okay out of hand etc. etc. not going to let anyone get in trouble here so i'm saying bye to this topic and i'm going to continue whinging all up reddit