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Jawesome16

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Becoming a Necromancer?
« on: September 09, 2014, 01:14:33 am »

I've recently walked into a necromancer tower, killed a few zombies (just to kill stuff, nothing was attacking me) , and then took the slab I found in the tower. I left and read the slab and it said *The secrets of life and death* . That was it, I didn't become a necromancer or acquire the power to animate bodies. I haven't seen any bugs regarding this and I've seen nothing anywhere in the forums about not being able to become a necromancer. Did I do something wrong? I did re(a)d it not just look at it. I am using adamantine colossuses that I turned into an entity so I could just explore for awhile in adventure mode, I gave them all the same entity code as dwarves except for a few minor changes to make them better. Could that be affecting it in some way? I'm new to the forums, so I'm not sure this is the right place to ask, but after searching this looked best. Thanks!
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Re: Becoming a Necromancer?
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2014, 01:24:43 am »

I don't know if your adamantine colossus would've done anything to change it, but did you use x and then aquired abilities? That's where the animate corpse option is.
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Re: Becoming a Necromancer?
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2014, 01:30:18 am »

Ya I did check there, I have no acquired powers.
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Re: Becoming a Necromancer?
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2014, 01:40:01 am »

Then maybe it's the creature. Other than that, I can't think of any way you screwed up.
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Re: Becoming a Necromancer?
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2014, 01:40:24 am »

If a creature doesn't age then it's considered immortal, I believe, and immortal creatures cannot become necromancers. I'm guessing that your Adamantine Colossi are immortal?

This also means that elves and goblins cannot become necromancers either. It's a bit odd but if you want a way around it you can just make 'immortal' creatures live unfeasibly long lives to subvert it.

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Re: Becoming a Necromancer?
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2014, 01:42:26 am »

I was an elf necromancer once though?
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If any of them are made of fire, throw stuff, run, and think non-flammable thoughts.

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Re: Becoming a Necromancer?
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2014, 01:50:15 am »

You must have been playing a modded game. The raws for necromancy explicitly require a creature to be mortal. An immortal creature may read a slab/book and according to legends 'learn the secrets of life and death' but it won't have any effect other than that.

See Rumrusher's comment here: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=142368.0

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Re: Becoming a Necromancer?
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2014, 02:16:01 am »

What makes them immortal? I don't know what to search for to change it.
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Re: Becoming a Necromancer?
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2014, 04:02:41 am »

I'm not 100% sure on this but I believe adding a [MAXAGE] token will fix it. If you wanted something to still be 'immortal' then set it to something like [MAXAGE:6000:6500].

I'm not sure whether this would require a new world to be generated or not.

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Re: Becoming a Necromancer?
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2014, 04:07:26 am »

Wasn't it [UNDYING]? Or was that just in old versions? I remember seeing that in a few raws in 34.11, but I haven't looked into it.
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Re: Becoming a Necromancer?
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2014, 05:17:29 am »

As far as I can tell there is no [UNDYING] token in this or the previous two major releases as far as creature tokens go. I even googled it... It's odd though, I also recalled it being a thing.

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Re: Becoming a Necromancer?
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2014, 08:21:30 am »

you could just give the creature a necromancy interaction or go into the raws and remove the requirements of the person needing to be mortal to work since you are modding the game.
    remove   [IT_FORBIDDEN:NOT_LIVING] or [IT_REQUIRES:MORTAL] from the interaction_standard file then gen a world with access.
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